#Quel’dorei2025 💙

To be fair, we have some nasties on our side too, and I condemn that, just as I condemn the nasties on their side.

I’ve seen antis before resort to doxxing, personal attacks, and bad faith arguments, but honestly? I’m happy that they’re keeping the discussion alive.

I was anti-Classic servers. I actually agreed with J Allen Brack’s sentiment that we don’t really want to go back to the grindfest that was vanilla wow, but you know what I did? Nothing. It wasn’t anything worth talking about. And when it was announced, I simply shrugged and went about my life.

I want to keep the discussion as positive as possible and engage in good faith with everyone, including people who don’t agree with me

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high elves pls, this is taking very long.

fans have been getting baited since vanilla.
but as can be seen from the requests and anti-high elf crowd, it is not a forgotten topic.

ppl love elves. give them these wc2 elves.

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I honestly don’t really understand what you’re talking about. Are you referring to the thread about meeting new people that I created here and on the US forum? That thread was deleted within a few hours just because it triggered some completely irrational reactions from the locals. But seriously, what’s so terrible about people connecting, socializing, and making friends around such an amazing and fun hobby? (There is a “Looking for friends” thread, but it’s basically dead – one post a month, if that.)

Now, about your phrase that I’m supposedly looking for “young, attractive, and rich guys” – that sounds like cheap gossip from old ladies on a bench. I have never said I’m looking for a young man, and especially not a “handsome” one. Looks don’t matter to me at all, except for height, and when I say 30–35 years old, I don’t exactly consider that “early youth.” So what you wrote is just made-up nonsense. As for a man being successful and having achievements beyond just a forum or WoW😁 – yes, that’s true.

And this claim that I “dumped some people on Discord”? Seriously? One weird guy added me, and within two minutes he was demanding more photos, even though my profile pic already shows me. I sent him another, and then he had the nerve to say, “That’s not you, you’re a fake, send more pics.” At that point I told him he was being creepy and deleted him. He got offended, and then went into my thread just to call me manipulative and awful. :grimacing:

And yes, I remember your nickname, along with your constant little digs at me. What I don’t understand is why. We don’t even know each other, but you keep showing up in my threads to take shots at me and try to troll. Do my posts trigger some kind of emotional reaction in you? Do I bruise your fragile ego or what? :grimacing:

Listen, you’re honestly acting like a complete psycho, stalking me and spreading lies about me in my own threads.

This is the last time I’m even replying to your disgusting attacks – and only so that people reading this forum who don’t know the full story can understand what actually happened.

On the US forums, I was active, creating threads about High Elves, and yes – there were constant attacks, trolling, and insults from the usual anti-High Elf crowd.

In one of those threads, a hater literally wrote: “I hate Void Elves.” This same person had already been posting hateful stuff about Void Elves and Alliance Elves before.

I replied with: “Why is your face covered in soot? I thought Blood Elves don’t work in the mines.” — and that’s it.

That one sarcastic line.

Then, the whole gang of haters immediately jumped on me like they’d been waiting for an excuse to start open bullying. They finally found their “reason.”

When I wrote that, it never even crossed my mind to insult anyone’s real-life race or skin color. I grew up in a country where racism simply doesn’t exist the same way – we have dozens of nationalities living together, and everyone respects each other. In my mentality, the idea that “one race is better than another” isn’t even a thing.

(That’s why this false accusation from a mentally unstable stalker makes me especially furious.)

And the person I joked at? I don’t know them, I have no clue about their real race, gender, nationality, or what they look like. It could be a 40-year-old white guy or a 70-year-old Japanese grandma for all I know. The point is – my line was about Blood Elves, period. Suggesting otherwise is just ridiculous.

But of course, that little clique of haters who basically live on the forums 24/7 started mass-reporting everything I wrote. About 25 posts got flagged in a row. I ended up with a one-month mute – and not even for that joke, but for calling that group of weirdos “angry little snowflakes.” I thought the whole mess was finally over.

Then the stalker ayukama literally came here, made a character, leveled it to 10, and the very first thing they did was show up in my thread to attack and provoke me again. And they kept doing it, over and over – and now they’ve followed me into this thread too.

I wrote all this to explain what really happened. This whole situation is disgusting, and what makes it worse is that this bizarre individual is still openly lying about me, in my own threads, just for the sake of harassment.

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The person you speak of has been on the forums a long time and is more trust worthy then you are, as for the rest of your rant and racist comments does not interest me at all. People who are racist like you are and catfishing on the forums do not belong here.

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I won’t even try to argue with an idiot. Keep being a local troll :tipping_hand_woman:

My long text was not just for you, don’t kid yourself.

it was for everyone who reads my posts. I wrote my thoughts. I have the right to express my view of the situation when stalkers and trolls come to my threads and try to slander me. I defend my honor and dignity, and I will not allow lies about me to go unpunished.

And at least I’m not hiding behind a mask of forum characters, closed accounts, or fake characters. I write from my main charcracter, who I play, my profile is open, and I also wrote my Discord and Instagram - because I have a healthy self-esteem and I don’t put on a mask when I come to this forum.

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I ve a serious question to the HE fan club :

Why dont you race change to blood elf and RP as a former HE who joined back his people?

What does miss you if you play BE model to be a HE?

Because now you re playing with the smurf model reminding you each time you hit or cast that you re a blueberry elf

Do you prefer stay close to humans dwarves and goats than being with your kind?

Serious question so serious answer please.

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And about “racism” towards game races – here’s an example: Gabriela (even though I don’t really like her :grin: because she’s a High Elf hater). But when she makes comments about the skin color of Void Elves, I don’t feel offended, because I take it for what it is – she’s clearly talking about an in-game race in WoW, not about me in real life.

Roleplay racism is tolerated by Blizzard

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Paelarin

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That’s why I say you’re a stinker :imp:
and the real High Elves will be in the Alliance :blue_heart::white_heart::blue_heart:

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I hope people will help to flag you and gift you nice vacations for insulting people.

Without me, you’ll be bored here because you only come to my threads :smirk:

Please don’t insult my character’s skin color and my race, you’re hurting me… :pensive:

And I m not a High Elf hater, I m a void elf hater.

High elves are my people and we called ourselves Sin’dorei.

In memory of our dead people killed because of a human prince. Humankind you serve.

We are in the horde and we have the city.
We dont deal anymore with humans, they failed us.

Garithos and his followers were humans, you serve them each day.

I thought you called yourself HE but you re offended by colour teasing by saying “my race”

Thanks to proove to everyone I m right.

You re a void elf.

No, I’m a High Elf, and you’re a stinker, so go awayyyyyyyyy👿

Lets show the EU Forums who you did it too.

And the actual post:

https://i.imgur.com/Y8mLlZ5.png

Yeah, they have made there character that way to represent herself. Another thing that you didn’t know, she is also Mexican. So yes, saying “face covered in soot” is a direct attack on her skin colour, even if you didn’t want to go that way.

She is entitled to her opinion about her disliking void elves, as much as your entitled to your opinion about the High Elves. But does not give you the right to racism!

Now tell me all this is a lie.

Now I’m going to tell you to shut up, because my joke had absolutely nothing to do with a person’s real-life skin color, and I had no idea who she was or what race she is in reality. To me, it was just the avatar of a random blood elf girl on the forum.

Thank you for taking a screenshot of my post – it only proves my point even further.

You keep attacking me and slandering me, accusing me of real-life racism, and you’re doing it publicly on the official European World of Warcraft forum.

I asked you to provide proof for your accusations that I’m some kind of racist – but you have nothing except a screenshot of my joke, which I’ve already quoted myself multiple times.

You are a completely unhinged individual with clear signs of psychopathy. Stop stalking me and go seek professional psychiatric help.

Where am I being racist towards you? Please, exactly quote.

And you know the other thing?

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I wasn’t planning on reporting anyone here, but you’ve became the first. You’re personal attacks is really showing everyone the real truth, Ангеланика.

And this is exactly why you can’t make jokes about that sort of thing, especially on the NA forums. You just assumed they were a typical American Caucasian person

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Why dont you race change to blood elf and RP as a former HE who joined back his people?

Because I’ve played Humans in Warcraft 1 and 2, and enjoyed playing Humans and Night Elves in Warcraft 3. As an Alliance fan I gravitate towards the tolkienesque fantasy of humanoid races that work together to fight for a better world. I prefer the capital cities of Stormwind, Ironforge, and the Exodar to the spikey hovels and sewage of Orgrimmar, Thunder Bluff, and the Undercity.

This isn’t to say that playing Horde is an inferior experience. There’s merit to the “noble savage” fantasy that defines their narrative. It’s just not for me. And while I can spend the first 20 levels in a lush forest with intricate architecture and spend time in a capital that would put other alliance cities to shame in terms of layout and architecture, I have to spend a good chunk of the remaining 60 in an environment that is the opposite of that. (Horde Garrison, for example)

I’ve said before that in early Warcraft/other fantasy stories, Elvenkind has always been a friend of mankind. They look down on humans, and they certainly laugh at them for their clumsy attempts at magic, but they nevertheless are friends and have fought together. Legolas and Aragorn. Teclis and Karl Franz. Turalyon and Alleria. Hell, Varian and Valeera to some extent!

When Ion said “blood elves are high elves” he was technically correct from a gameplay standpoint. But many high elf fans are heavily invested in the lore and history of Azeroth, and we know the history of the Alliance and the enduring presence of the High Elves that attest to that history.

If Blizzard wanted us to forget about them and think of the Quel’dorei as a bygone chapter in Warcraft’s story, I would accept that. Except, I keep seeing reminders of a race that I want to play as, but can’t. High Elf ballistae at the second Siege of Orgrimmar. High Elf NPCs scattered around Dornogal. That French short with the High Elf in Stormwind narrating the story about how her people fell to the scourge and how their pride brought them low.

I knew that high elves as a playable race was a forlorn hope, but then Allied Races became a thing. When Void Elves got non-voidy customisations, I thought this would be as good as it gets. Then Chris Metzen announces an expansion about “uniting the scattered elven tribes”.

There are some people who are annoyed that we still keep asking for high elves. I’m likewise annoyed at Blizzard for continuing to tease us with them while still not announcing them.

Because now you re playing with the smurf model reminding you each time you hit or cast that you re a blueberry elf

Sort of. Void Elves have a very limited selection when it comes to customisations and class choices. While they have non-voidy skin and hair colours, their hair styles are very teenage edgelord-coded, and there are people who want to play a Silver Covenant High Elf, which means being able to play a Paladin.

So, if we aren’t getting a High Elf AR, an expansion of customisations for Void Elves for non-voidy hair and more class choice would be welcome as well.

Sorry for the long answer, but hopefully, it was serious enough for you :smiley:

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Yes, maybe it wasn’t the kindest or sweetest joke, but the atmosphere there was extremely toxic, with constant attacks against High Elves – especially from the very person that joke was directed at, and from the one who’s now spamming her hysterical posts here.

I can honestly say it never even crossed my mind to insult anyone in real life. I treat all people equally, regardless of appearance or traits we’re born with.

When I talk to someone, what matters to me is their attitude toward me and their personal qualities. (Of course, I’m not just talking about forum discussions here, but in life in general.)

In any case, this situation does not give anyone the right to publicly slander me and bully me. This strange woman keeps coming into my threads just to provoke me and try to get an emotional reaction. It’s honestly very mentally exhausting, and it is clearly a violation of the forum rules.

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