I seriously don't know how you've managed to interpret my comment to turning void elves into playable enemies.
By implying that they are not to be trusted because they can go mad you are basically saying that no? If not then why have any doubts about anythung Umbric says?
Lorewise, forsakens are slowly rotting and replace body parts to prevent disappearing entirely, yet we don't see the progress of rotting nor replacing body parts, because of gameplay reasons.
We don't see humans or anyone eat for that matter. A human character doesn't have to eat in the game but we can assume it happens, just like we can assume that the forsaken replace their bodyparts.
That does not in any way mean we can assume void elves are slowly going crazy and losing control, we don't have any indication of that. Maybe we'll see something int he future, but it will never be some big thing that happens to all or even the majority of them for gameplay reasons.
Lorewise, shadow priests are hearing whispers from the void and are eventually driven mad, yet we don't see that because of gameplay reasons.
We do kind of see that since shadow priests kill themselves regularily in the game, but they're also not a faction. You can't show something happening to the player alone.
Void elves also hear whispers from the void and unless they either learn to master the void (read: better than Alleria can at the moment) or somehow get rid of their void infusion, they are doomed with the same fate as shadow priests. But we will never see that because of gameplay reasons.
Are you saying the faction will one day all go crazy, but you the player will still walk around as the only void elf left? Or are you saying it's so far in the future that we'll never see it anyway?
I don't think it's camparable at all really. The void elves are designed to be different from shadow priest. A shadow priest can't control anything, they're just using it. If anything, a void elf will not eventually go crazy, they will eventually go ethereal like other creatures eventually supposedly did. Thats my udnerstanding of it atleast.
That is something I'm all for, imagine Ethereals as an allied race. The Alliance would get the void ones because void elves, and the Horde would get the arcane ones because Ley Lines. Wishfull thinking, but it sounds awesome.
As I've said in my earlier comment, High Elven leadership (Vereesa in particular) are most likely heavily fed anti Blood Elf propaganda by Kirin Tor to the point of seeing their kin as an enemy.
And what makes you think they don't just have the same opinion as her?
That's your opinion. Is that interesting because you hope it might be a gateway for playable High Elves in alliance?
They're already in the Alliance.
No, Garrosh. Blaming all members of the horde for the decisions of the warchief is nonsense.
He was the leader of the Horde at the time. And I doubt they blame the Tauren for it, but the leader of the Horde and the blood elves were directly involved, so it's not weird they get blamed too.
I'm not saying they should get blamed, we sit here with gods view of the situation, the characters don't.
Why would Lor'themar want to join the faction whose backbone is the kingdom that had Kael'thas imprisoned in Dalaran, then had the single most racist general in the entire kingdom assigned to have them systematically killed (or at least attempted to do so) ? Any Blood Elf (as well as High Elf) who is familiar with the events that took place after defilement of the Sunwell has all the reasons in the world to distrust humans. Lor'themar considered joining the Alliance only because Garrosh had become a bigger threat to their existance by then.
Garithos was the Leader of the Remnants of Lordaeron. Just like you say the first Horde had nothing to do with this Horde, Garithos had nothing to do with this Alliance. Actually, Sylvanas turned most of Garithos's men into forsaken, meaning that those racist people are now in the current Horde.
What reason other than a now forsaken group of remnants did Lor'themar have to not join the Alliance?
Garrosh could easily accuse Silvermoon of treason had they chose not to cooperate. Orcs greatly outnumber Blood Elves (and any other race on horde, for that matter) and orcish forces alone would've razed Silvermoon, due to sheer numbers if nothing else. Tauren would most likely get pissed. Trolls? Perhaps they too would be. But I don't see either crossing the ocean to stop Garrosh's forces on Silvermoon. Forsaken would've known that they'd be the next if they acted, so they'd stay still as well.
I doubt the Tauren would get pissed at all. But all that is just versus the blood elves. If the Blood Elves had joiend the Alliance they would have had the backing of the Alliance forces and likely the Darkspear temporarily. Garrosh wouldn't stand a chance, and neither would the Forsaken if they stood in the way.
No they don't. In fact, I'm pretty sure that High Elf civillians don't hate their Blood Elven kin, Half Elves who are part Silver Covenant are the only ones that hate Blood Elves because they are personally invested.
Thats pure head-canon.
What makes you think the Silver Covenant is a full army? It's a medium sized strike force at best. We don't even know if High Elves outnumber Void Elves at the moment, but they definitely a minority compared to Blood Elves.
In Suramar they are described in text as being there with an army. And we know that they outnumber the void elves, the void elves are a literal team, they're a small group living in tents. The high elves populate alot of Dalaran, they populate a fort/town/garrison in outland, and they populate the Quel'danil lodge, on top of that they are spread all over the place.
Blizzard can't hope to say they're fewer than the void elves because everything int he game goes against it.
You do realize that Blood Elves are High Elves, right?
No, theres a quite obvious difference. Just like there is between void elves and blood elves. All their biology is very simular, but thats the same with green and brown orcs aswell, same with lightforged and draenei, same with highmountain and normal tauren.
I would just like to remind people that 90% of the High Elven survivors from the scourge invasion are calling themselves Blood Elves now.
Thats not what this thread is about though. It's about the other 10%.
It is very important to remember that they were all, despite current alligiances, not many years ago (For an elf) lived side by side, brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, wife, husband, boyfriend, girlfriend etc etc, all lived and shared the same land, city, houses, food, sunwell and so on. They were all a part of the same army, the same council, all that crap.
No one is saying anything els, though some, likely most of those who remained high elves, did already live outside of Quel'thalas. Dalaran was already populated by alot of high elves before the blood elves existed for example.
Why in the world do you people still think, that the small 10% of which a large part have died over span of several years (Several expansions) would have face markings and tattooes while the vast majority, the vast 90% does not?
Because they have always had it, the game just didn't support it when the blood elves were made playable.
Now the game does support it though, meaning they should get it.
Why in the world would they suddenly stop using war paint when they have done so for hundereds of years at least?
I think you're mistaking "High Elves should get war paint because they've always had it" with "Give high elves war paint and make sure to never give it to blood elves."
Just because high elves, a new edition to the game so reap the denefits of the new toys in the game, does not mean the blood elves won't eventually.
I don't get why so many are trying to make this thread about what new stuff to give to blood elves when it's a thread about high elves?
If high elves don't interest you, but new stuff for the blood elves do, then make a thread about giving new stuff to the current races, don't try to act against other peoples wishes and opinions just for the sake of "If I can't have it then no one should."
What in hell are you actually thinking?
I know right? Why wouldn't high elves have something in 2018 that they had in 1995? It's crazy man.