Quel'dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race

[Leolamin-spinebreaker (Leolamin)]

Correct! I feel it will be more productive and refreshing, also the fact this thread was translated over from the old forums and is quite huge so it might better for newcomers and going into the future to have a new thread with updated layout and information. (Yeah the US thread is the US part of our community) (we have old threads archived so people or devs or anyone, can go back and look at them)

[Ektellion-silvermoon]

I don’t think that everyone gonna change their char to a High elf. I will change my priest only .at this moment he is a Void elf (holy priest on Argent Dawn.). The people hate me or pretend that I don’t exist . xD

The High elves are significant force and are from a really long time in the Lore and the game . The third sister have a Chance now to rise and shine like the other two. Vereesa! ^^

It is time !

[Brigante-argent-dawn (Brigante)]

@Leinadh-mazrigos

He’s just probably imitating what was done today in the US forums, where they asked blues to close the HE megathread in order to open a new one with all the info and ideas consolidated in the very first post. I do think it’s a good idea.

That’s going to lose a lot of the genuine ideas if it is done EU side Given the attention Blizzard pay to the EU Forums, do you think they will have someone slog through 7,000 posts and pick and choose what -they- think are the relative posts to carry forth to a new topic.

Also, I have read the US thread, I 100% Oppose that and hope High Elves are never a playable Option if they go with (And they will, B’cause USA) that as what a High Elf is. Why not just have a High Elf, y’know, how they are in game?

“No, we got these gnarly new muscled bodies, with more customised options than Blood Elves, and Warpaints, because the Blood Elves never used them, apart from like…90% of them”

Can I just remind you what you are asking for. You are asking for Blue Eyes on a Blood Elf Model. Anything else, is a Lore Mockery. That is the only difference. Not “We can grow beards” Not “We have Facepaint!” not “We’re all buff because Rangers!” Even the Icon on that thread on the US needs some work. That’s basically copying. That’s someone taking the Silver Covenant symbol and putting it on a shield when there is -NO- evidence that was ever a symbol for the High Elves, in fact all the evidence is to the Contrary. It’s the -SAME- Image as the Blood Elves, just in blue and silver. So whilst the artwork is clever, that is emphatically -not- a High Elf symbol.

But the Americans don’t care, do they? They want their savage tribal woaded up Elves. To HECK with them! That’s -MY- culture. If I don’t get to play them, then they don’t. That’s a damned insult. As much as Americans like to think they’re all part Irish, are they heck as like. Now you might be thinking “But Brigs, People from other nations can play Tauren, despite them being based on Native Americans?” To which I would say “Absolutely they can, I do so myself, But this would be -excluding- me from what is, actually part of my cultural heritage, and I bet they don’t even know what Woad was for, they just went ‘Lets paint Alleria Blue a bit!’”

I honestly do find it insulting that the US Fanbase think it is acceptable to culturally appropriate aspects of culture that is just not theirs, whilst denying it to people whose culture it actually is. That US High Elf thread needs to be shut down, until they can operate one that is not depicting racial stereotypes. They crossed a line.

@Retributor-draenor

Glad this thread still up

Sad that 99% of wow is catering to horde

Any ehh, Statistics for that? I mean 99% That’s a pretty bold claim, given the Alliance are getting the welfare items and buff, but come on, 99%, Where is your proof? If your first words are “I don’t need proof, anyone can see that…” Then you’re pretty much saying “I don’t have proof” So come on, 99% of WoW is catering to Horde, Can I see some Proof?

@Baldeagle-bronzebeard

The removal of Human Paladins.

I mean I don’t actually want that, but dear Gods they are the worst, you just can’t reason with most of them…

@Leolamin-spinebreaker

Correct! I feel it will be more productive and refreshing, also the fact this thread was translated over from the old forums and is quite huge so it might better for newcomers and going into the future to have a new thread with updated layout and information. (Yeah the US thread is the US part of our community) (we have old threads archived so people or devs or anyone, can go back and look at them)

It…Also holds some incorrect information, as I have -already- said. So you might want to talk to your US Counterparts. They start claiming blue woad as a High Elf thing, I’m allowed to claim feathered Warbonnets as a Blood Elf thing, that right? Do they not know the sheer cultural insensitivity?

Might seem funny to some, but Woad was important, it was a big part of the preparation for War, same as Oiling and braiding your hair for the Spartans, and making sure you were ‘clean of chin’ (Yeah, they never had Beards or moustaches) For an Ancient Scotta or Votadina, Brigante (Yeah that’s where I got the name from) or Iceni, the Woad was not just a fashion statement, it was an important Cultural thing…It was…It was like a Soldier checking their combat rig before going into battle, You had your woad, and you had your Limed Hair, so that it stood up in white spikes and looked scary…

Why is it Americans only claim ‘Cultural appropriation’ when it applies to them?

High Elves with Woad would be Cultural Appropriation, and I -live- in the places where that was common practice. So you need to talk to those US people, and get them to back down. Woad or Warpaint is -NOT- a High Elven thing. That’s not OK. At all.

@Ektellion-silvermoon

The High elves are significant force

Ehh, They’re small but vocal, I mean by definition, they are a tenth of the surviving Thalassian population, They’re significant only in a kind of flag wavy way, they are really not significant as a military force. (Go on, ask me about Suramar, I dare you…)

[Mithrendis-chamber-of-aspects]

@Brigante-argent-dawn

Your ruling monarch takes out troops, fights for a confederation that at this point he is not actually contractually bound to do so Said representative of a head of state then illegally seizes him and gives him to a -third power- for Incarceration. I mean this is beyond …I mean there isn’t even a precedent, it kind of exceeds War Crimes, there literally is not a precedent for what Garithos did. What he did was…wow, world changing, and he paid the price for it. I mean that was mind bending stuff…

So it is a reason for faction change?
You mean like Garrosh threatening to kill Baine (“sharing the same fate as Cairne”), Kol Kron beating his people and sylvanas jailing him?
And it worsens the situation when it is you warchief who jails you instead of third party. Garithos was the only important and still standing commander of Lordaeron left; he wasn’t official leader of alliance.
Also horde was killing high elves before Arthas did. Shortly after joining the horde blood elves were blackmailed into Northrend campaign.

@Brigante-argent-dawn

and those Troll are Darkspear, also enemies of the Amani, so both allies of the Sin’dorei, and a people who have never warred upon them…

Yeah, it is the same short sighted politics as enemies of stormwind creating alliance with Gilneas/kul tiras when it was at the odds with Stormwind. There was a prophet/hero of Trolls preaching rise and unification of troll tribes.

@Brigante-argent-dawn

What do you think Primal means?

For your information - primal means: relating to an early stage in evolutionary development; primeval. Blood Elves are advanced culture and society with very different structure than tribes. You can change the silvermoon into leather and spikes huts and still the blood elves wouldn’t be primal unless you specifically talk about architecture.

@Brigante-argent-dawn

Their entire culture is now based upon a feeling that the world did them wrong and they need to repay it, and a violent desire to see that wrong repaid.

Yes, original high elf culture was twisted beyond recognision to fit the horde values and renamed. It is called vengetful and vicious not primal. “Death to all who oppose us” salute and mind controlling of those who do not agree with politics are examples.

@Brigante-argent-dawn

Primal, just people think of Primal as Planet of the Apes breast beating without realising what the word means.

So you are a creator of definitions? By what authority? And btw the whole point of planet of the apes was that the apes created advanced culture while the humans were the ones that were primal.