Quel'dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race

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Oh yeah, totally dig that. Was just remarking that they use both sets of models for them.

If I remember right, I think Kalecgos just has a normal human model with blue hair? Been a while since I have done the quests in Bilgewater with him though. Nozdormu does look more half elven, though to be honest, he looks much more Elven, and I’m pretty sure you can get that hair colour, you definitely can on female Belves.

That would make sense, the Farstriders are always described as the most physically robust, and even in our world, Archers (As most Farstriders are) from medieval times tended to be very bulky in terms of upper body strength, took a lot of muscle to draw an English Longbow (Which is probably why other nations just went with Crossbows, which were pretty much point and click)

That, is a pretty amazing piece of art, That is some real artistic talent right there. That is someone depicting Elves right, the mirror thing is done very cleverly also

Pretty much that. Its OK to take flavour from it, but nothing in it is ‘fact’ in terms of the actual gameworld.

Remember Half Elves are going to be very rare. Don’t let the Trailer Trash Kardashia-Ahem- Windrunners fool you. That’s not normal. That’s massively looked down upon by Elven Society. Which you can kind of see. Whilst I, as in me the player, obviously have absolutely zero problem with mixed race relationships (and have been in several) Brigante regards cross Species relationships as disgusting, though he is generally polite enough not to say so openly. Elves, all types of Elves, are arrogant. THey just are, and do you know what, if I lived for Thousands of years when surrounded by people who barely live a hundred, I’d imagine I’d be pretty arrogant. Some would say I already am, and I’m only in my 40’s!
Arrogance needs a defence mechanism to make it seem justified to the person/race/species, as to why -they- are best.

Unfortunately our examples from real life are rather horrifically unpleasant, but it does seem that an Elf and Human relationship would be seen as somewhat taboo. Alleria and Turalyon, Oooh, bit edgy, crossing into Lord of the Rings Territory with Arwen and Aragorn, but fair enough. Wait, hang on, Vereesa and Rhonin? She’s the same Family as Alleria! Do you really think that is likely? But oh well, if you insis- Wait what now, Sylvanas and Nathanos Marris? Are you for real? You repeated the same ‘Elf Chick and Human male’ Meme three times, using the same family? For Real?
I’m not going to be cruel, no, wait, I am. None of those three are Blood Elves, they’re all trailer trash High Elves, all I’m saying…

Jokes aside, what we do see from ‘Dark Mirror’ as much as I loathe it and wish it was never published, is that Elves do have a certain disdain for humanity, or at least a disdain for them when trying to, well, culturally appropriate Elven traditions I suppose.
I mean in fairness, Lor’themar Theron seems a pretty ‘stand up guy’ , but even he was like ‘Nathanos? a Human? In the Farstriders? Ugh’.

And to be fair…he was Right. Nathanos was only there because he was boinking the boss. (Which does make his constant presence in BfA -really- annoying on Hordeside).

But yeah, Blizzard have stated that High Elves are very rare, and are often mistaken for Blood Elves, so as a result it is logically fair to say that Half Elves would be even rarer. I’m not saying there are none, we know there are, just that they would be very rare, but then so are Void Elves, so ehhh….

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Half of hordes Population consists of bloodelves, as long as that does not change there will never be highelves on the alliance side.

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No it doesn’t. That simply just isn’t true. They are -narrowly- the most played race, but not 50%.

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7078

Okey Brigante, its 35.8% on US and 37.3% on EU right now for lvl 120 characters. so let me rephrase that for you.

Over 35% of Hordes Population consists of Bloodelves, as log as that does not change there will never be Highelves on the Alliance side.

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Do you really want to see high elves anywhere you go? I mean yeah, faction balance and all that, but at what cost?

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What will you give for High elves? I’ll give away void elves.

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7081

Belated because I was muzzled, but happy 7k posts.

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7082

its insane that this post is still going on!!! just give them already to the people. Retail is dead anyways so you can do whatever you want with it.

Bring Classic fast pls

thnx

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My old night elf main, Arodeesa Winterstorm, shared the same view, but was a lot more upfront about it. She accepted friendships, but anything romantic with a non-elf was unacceptable. She even kicked people out of her regiment (the Winterblades on Defias Brotherhood) for refusing to end their relationship with a human. The elf had to leave the guild both IC and OOC (disclaimer - I don’t personally have any issues with any kinds of consensual relationships between adults, but my night elf did, and the guild was built as a hyper conservative WC III style night elven regiment, and we didn’t allow OOC guild members).

That’s why I love playing elves. They allow me to explore sides that feel foreign to me personally, like xenophobia and being conservative. High elves would allow for some other dimensions to this than night elves, though, seeing as they’re in a slightly different situation, and haven’t been immortal like the night elves were for ten thousand years. And different to void elves because they’re less voidy. Different to blood elves because of how they’re exiles, a minority, more conservative in some aspects, while less conservative in others, how they’re probably bitter at their old kin, their former leaders, the rulers of what used to be their home, for centuries and more.

Prominent figures among the high elves, formerly and present. This is what Elisande talked about when she came for the high elves.

Half elf options for high elf allied race confirmed! Right?

I doubt we will. Allied races will be rarer than the old races because they’re locked behind reputation grinds and quests. Only the people who really want high elves will bother. And yes, I’d love it for people to get what they want. Especially when it’s what I want. =p

Yesplsthx.

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Re-release Northrend for next expact ‘Scourge’ and add another Silver Covenant faction that you need to get exalted with in order to unlock them. People won’t even care if it’s a Legion re-hash as long as it’s better than BFA.
It writes itself.

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Oww dud, 7ks of replys. The battle continues mon amis, keep fighting and dont give up. Ogres and Helves will become a reality i hope

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I swear I have seen it somewhere saying, that he has unique Half-elven model, though, I am sorry, I can’t find the source now. (he has at least unique face other than the hair colour, while the body is the same as any other human’s)

Yeah, I know that. I used it, because it is the only source, that gives any insight. Other than that, there is literally no other source, so we can say that we know absolutely nothing about them or that the information from the RPG book can serve us as an inspiration for how it could be, until Blizz clarifies it. Which might not happen at all X)

I did not stated it as a fact (at least I hope, if I did, I apologize), btw I did not meant it like there are 100x more Half elves, it was rather a suggestion for my idea to work. I still find it quite doable and as a possibility, how to get Half-elves and High elves alike. It justifies the use of different model and unique customisation options (let’s say 50 % would be Half-elven and the other 50 % HE in facial options), which means that it could have higher chances to be added, since it would be different enough. + the story could be rich, when there would be two “races” and together they can make nation strong enough to not rely heavily on the Alliance in every single matter.

I think it is a good compromise and a solution, which could harm no one, but that is just my POV.

We stil do not know what is their population, just that there is prolly some, if they are just individuals or if they created enclaves within the big cities or if some joined Silver Covenant, where they would be accepted, since if its leader, Vereesa, had human husband and is raising half-elven kids, while all of HEs still did not question her choices or leadership, there should be more compassion and open-mindedness for them.

Who knows? Maybe Blizz can say tomorrow, that there are only few Half-elves on Azeroth, although that would be super weird and cringy, when all of the Windrunner sisters chose human partners…

It all also goes along with how many High elves are still alive, we know of the minimum, but that is again kinda vague.

Btw: Sorry for late responses, I haven’t got much time lately.

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Hey guys, as this thread dates back to may 2018 and is quite dated now, in both layout and information, I’ve decided to request this thread gets locked, I’ll, therefore, be posting a new mega thread to replace this one once it’s locked. With a much better layout and updated information. :smiley:

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Why though? Sorry, but I feel like there is no need for that.

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Oh heck no, I’m the same, I hope that didn’t come across as -me- having such hangups in real life, my relationship history would be…highly hypocritical if I did! But Brigante is fairly ancient, 1,404 to be precise, and fairly set in his ways, like your character he has no problem with being friends with the other Species of Azeroth (Apart from Amani, to heck with those guys). Its even broader than that, he has no problem with a Sin’dorei/Shal’dorei relationship. If they weren’t on the enemy Faction he wouldn’t have a problem with a Sin’dorei/Kaldorei or Quel’dorei relationship. Think he’d draw the line at Ren’dorei however :stuck_out_tongue:

True, I mean I can see the appeal of both Kaldorei and Shal’dorei in that regard though, the sheer terror of having Immortality and then losing it, watching in the mirror each day for a sign of mortality, a wrinkle or a grey hair. Better to be like the Sin’dorei or Quel’dorei, with no illusions of Immortality to be shattered.

I can understand the conservatism aspect, and what you mean by more and less at the same time, I mean if we look at the Blood Elves, the Farstrider order is pretty conservative, they disapproved of what the Blood Elves were doing, and are somewhat a ‘half way house’ between the Sin’dorei and Quel’dorei. They disapproved of the Blood Knights, but didn’t disapprove of draining Mana, the Quel’dorei were just one step beyond. However they are less conservative in that they have sort of integrated into Human society, and are possibly more accepting of things that Blood Elves would regard with disdain.

Its an old gag of mine that I refer to the Windrunners as ‘Trailer Trash’, as all three of them seem to share the family ‘kink’ for human men. Which most Elves would find disgusting, and the fact that all three of them have the same inclinations is so statistically unlikely as to be laughable. Blizz really overused the ‘Aragorn and Arwen’ trope to death there…

I reckon that sounds like a reasonable idea, yeah, as I say, I think High Elves are -less- intolerant of such an idea, than Blood Elves, who seem, much more…haughty?

I know, I had a quick look and I couldn’t find it either, I did find his in game model, and I wonder, has he been updated when the other Human models were? It doesn’t look like he has, I might be wrong.

I’m…not sure that would be the wisest course of action, you have a Mega thread, with a lot of constructive ideas in it, and suggestions. If you get this locked, you are dooming it to drop down the topics list, and all those ideas will be doomed to obscurity. You also don’t know that Blizz will necessarily -grant- another Megathread.
I’d seriously think carefully before requesting that they lock it. Anything new that needs to be said can just as equally be said here?

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He’s just probably imitating what was done today in the US forums, where they asked blues to close the HE megathread in order to open a new one with all the info and ideas consolidated in the very first post. I do think it’s a good idea.

Have a look at the (new) US version:

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/alliance-high-elf-allied-race-megathread/146463

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Glad this thread still up

Sad that 99% of wow is catering to horde

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No, a discussion on High Elves shouldn’t have warranted 7000+ posts because there is no biological or cultural diversity between High Elves or Blood Elves. Besides the former having a different name and blue eyes, if you want to play a High Elf you need to roll a Horde toon. This is really a case of a vocal minority unwilling to listen to a “no”.

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The removal of Human Paladins. :rofl:

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Correct! :smiley: I feel it will be more productive and refreshing, also the fact this thread was translated over from the old forums and is quite huge :smiley: so it might better for newcomers and going into the future to have a new thread with updated layout and information. (Yeah the US thread is the US part of our community) (we have old threads archived so people or devs or anyone, can go back and look at them)

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