According to Ironforge - wholesome faction ratio for the PVP Wotlk EU is the following:
Horde 64.8% and Alliance 35.2%
If we break it only for English PVP servers:
42,143 (60.48%) Horde and 27,527 (39.5%) Alliance
From these, 4 servers are Full-Horde and 2 are Full-Alliance.
Lets not go into history and point any fingers but… most of the servers had a healthy balance but big queue times where the queue times weren’t adressed but after months of being un-resolved bunch of people transfered while some left the game (as myself).
Now im back and instead of being on a server i paid to transfer and had almost perfect balance, i am left with all Aliance server again forcing me to quit or pay for the SECOND time to transfer so i can PLAY the game even though i am ALREADY paying monthly for this game to be balanced…
Is anyone from BL. even reading these posts for the past year since 70 % of them were on this subject? Is the team so shrinked that there is 1 MOD reviewing all this and he can’t take it to the big bois? It would take 1 legit hour have a team meeting, discuss possible outcomes and start reacting…
PLEASE do something to resolve this giant mess…
Sorry to say, but just like you paid to transfer to server back then, your faction paid (or gone for free) off the server, I presume you talk about Firemaw.
In your case, it was fine for you to come to server by your wish, but you are mad at B to let your faction do the same.
And no, B never promises with subscription that we will have balanced server, only to have access to server and play.
“Blizzard doesnt promise you a playable experience, only access to the server”
lmao keep forking over $$$
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In your case, it was fine for you to come to server by your wish, but you are mad at B to let your faction do the same.
Actually it was not fine, since my original server died off so i had to transfer there…(Also PAY)
-Instead of me elaborating in a clear and logic sense why are you wrong in 100 ways and add 2 hours into this post… I feel that its better to contribute to the big team of 2 people browsing these forums having the B. sign over their logo.
As a complimentary contribution from a random player (best rogue eu) here are few ideas even a 3 year old could come up with
1) Free transfers from full HORDE servers to full ALLIANCE servers and vice-versa. Took me literal 20 seconds
2) Surveys for volunteers to be transfered to imbalanced realms.
3) Surveys to get volunteers for new balanced realms > i.e. 1000 horde applies and 1000 aliance applies and boom a normal realm is born…
4) Allow LIMITED transfer slots before your servers reach the queue issues… if you have any analysists or QA teams they should be able to provide an intel on this !
5) Instant merge of smaller realms… I bet that these 5 ideas TOP the idea of doing nothing…
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Faction balance was not really a consideration for any decisions regarding server population.
Also, merge of dead servers already happened. And you can transfer off Firemaw for free right now. You can take it, pay for a transfer if free destinations are not for your liking or stay on Firemaw and keep being smug to random people on forum.
Blizzard won’t help you, choose your poison, reroll or quit.
And no, B never promises with subscription that we will have balanced server, only to have access to server and play.
Link to this promise? I don’t have access to my server and I can’t play.
I knew someone will get hooked over this. 
There is no “my server” in their book, all of them are theirs.
Anyone can access at least one server at any time, so they are covered.
A year ago, in august- september, players actually start leaving balanced servers by paying for transfer by their own free will, there was no FCT at that point.
Why do you think they would go back when they escaped? Doesnt that tell they actually dont want balance?
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That would be nice to have.
“Enjoy the world of azeroth/kalimdor in game with your friends with only a monthly subscription required”
“fight with aliance/horde”
advertised almost in every magazine, cd cover or website…
Where is the aliance for full horde servers and vice versa on PVP servers?
Are we also paying for these 5 hour queue times as well ? Does the in-game 5 hour wait counts as a game time? If you go to watch a movie to the cinema, would you want to be required to sit in the lobby for 2 hours before the first group of people watch the earler scheduled movie?
You need to understand that there are legit, rational and full concious complains and suggestions that have been dragged through these forums for the last 1 year at least.
There cant be a cell in your brain that blindly defends an idea of getting a 1/3 of a water cup.
Playerbase numbers arent declining because all above is adressed thats for sure…
Also i wont start on how the free transfers are bad - Simply looking into the past and present, you won’t find a good example.
I can’t imagine a company where 80 % of the customer base is VISIBLY unsatisfied for months and nothing remotely favorable happens.
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There are free transfers off Firemaw to Ashbringer which is about 60/40 H:A atm.
I was also on Firemaw pre-Gehennas exodus, managed to use the loophole to get to Golemagg since everywhere else was dead. Had free xferred to Firemaw from Stonespine when the realm was deemed too dead to survive.
Honestly I would move to Ashbringer. Only the Fresh servers are almost perfect balance for PvP but both are locked to transfers and slightly Alliance favoured.
Your complaint, and I see this come up a lot on unbalanced servers, is interesting and has me wonder why faction imbalances are so out of whack.
Like I was thinking this is a classic only thing, but thinking about retail servers, it also tends to happen a lot there too.
I’m curious then why pvp servers are so popular? Is it because its the place where “real pvpers” go, and so if you are into bgs/arena its the only place to get good teams? What about the other 10000s of players that aren’t into the high end pvp?
I ask as in all my years doing wow I’ve always played on PvE servers. I only did pvp for classic as thats where all my IRL friends went and they started playing here first.
So why so much imbalance? Why not just make 1 pvp server and the rest pve?
Correct, that company doesn’t exist. The issue is that everyone who makes threads like this thinks that they represent “80% of players” but in reality, it’s more like 2%. The silent majority don’t care that every now and again someone cries that they didn’t play for 1/3/6/12/36 months and game/meta/server situation changed during that time. Not to mention that nothing can be realistically done about most of those issues.
Having more people from your faction makes the game better.
Having more people from the opposite faction makes the game worse.
Right, so why are there so many PVP servers? Why not just make 1 PVP server for English and have the rest PvE? Only thing that matters about numbers then is AH. Anything more than 5000 people is going to give you a decent AH. The mega server mentality for AH is ruining the experience for a lot of people.
Also if AH was regional, wouldn’t be an issue which server you are on for AH…as long as you had enough people for grouping/raids, no issues, right?
Unfortunately you can’t force people to join servers they don’t like.
For some reason all servers - despite healthy size - turn into single faction so clearly the majority of the players don’t actually want to play PvP servers. They just pretend and want to enjoy the benefits. Which is totally normal.
The only solution I’ve seen work is Magtheridon-EU. Any server that’s unhealthy goes PvE. It can be recommended to new players and to those actually willing to PvP, they can (have to) move on to an actual PvP server.
Playing on small servers like Terenas (but not Magtheridon) was viable during WLK. In fact it creates a tight knit community. So the point of going PvE is, now you can do dungeons, raids, quests. There is certainly competition for mining and herbs, but that’s about it.
And what can be done for Firemaw? You can’t force thouse who escaped to Razorgore and further to Gehennas via double FCT back.
It seems that Blizzard doesn’t belive in Wrath hype and do not want to open extra realms for them to only be abandoned 3 months later. They are loosing possible subscribers but it seems as if they are OK with it.
@Arsá: Moving to Ashbringer for free is an entirely valid option for you for the time being.
Sure, some complaints are legit, but not the one where we get balanced server with subscription.
Risking being on a dead/1 factioned server 4 months later…and having to pay for transfer again…
Its not about 50/50 balance… its about having ratio that is not 95-100 % one factioned. There are PVP servers with no 2 factions… The PVP server loses its meaning and value.
I didn’t even mention which other catastrophies this leads as well such as AH being utterly empty, selling items only to vendors/etc…
Not sure how some of you operate but being on a pvp server does not mean you’ll play battlegrounds and arena…it means that the open world is PVP, having the possibility of senses heightened while questing, possibility of another faction being present and the possibility of combat. I surely do not pay my gametime to enjoy pet battles? (lmao)
You cannot assume that people don’t mind this. Its the most discussed topic in lfg/world chats, there is at least 1+ forum post a day related to this… A simple survey would show if people would be in for a more balanced servers.
The imbalance was created by improper handling and no hazzard strategy at all.
People were rushing towards Firemaw since it was the only server where the ratio was close to 50-50 , paying for transfer and then creating enormeous queue times. Afterwards blizzard offered free transfers from Firemaw to selected servers creating a giant mess making whole factions transfer where now all 3 servers have 1 faction each.
Guys please introduce sense into your posts…pvpers do not want 1 faction servers, they do not want pve realms…they want open world pvp with both factions included…and most of all we do not want queue times…
That’s the thing, whenever Blizzard handles it (by locking populated servers / factions), people outrage (daily posts to unlock servers) and barely anyone takes transfers.
What can they do? Squash the entire architecture and create one megarealm with service architecture, splitting inventory (say, by item type, to enable scaling) etc. and call it a day?
And how would that be actively viable for social aspects, not to mention chat, LFG, etc.? Imagine an announcement about it, how would the forums look like? Even RDF is causing endless drama, clearly as a dev I would know to ignore the community and do whatever I think is best. Which is, right now, to keep realms and point fingers at players for converging.
I want endless free beer and eternal life, too.