Wen alliance / horde racials imbalance in PvP addressed?
If you look at the ladder it’s so obvious Alliance is absolutely way too good with racials compared to Horde. I wanna reroll night elf or human so much, but I’m a horde player so I will never, ever betray my Orc clan like that. But god damn!!
Plz I want shadowmeld equivalent in horde 
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Yes, all racials need to be turned off in arena, as crafted items like Infurious Helm of Vengeance etc.
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Hmm I didn’t consider completely turning them off but actually thinking about it that probably makes sense too
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Racials will always be imbalanced. Turn them off.
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Like they said.
Disabling racials in ranked PvP would allow us to pick a race just because it looks cool, or fun. I want that.
There aren’t enough goblin warlocks around.
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Yeah the more I think about it the more it seems like the right move. Theres no reason why humans should have extra dps trinket. And if I get one more Shadowmeld on my 2.6s cast … 
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Even you as an orc. Why should you have a passive, permanent, 20% stun reduction?
Meanwhile, Worgen and Nightborne have complete and utter garbage racials. They never see play as a result.
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Turning racials off would be good for the game in general I believe. People want to play the race they like, not race xyz because of the racial. It’s less fun playing an ugly race and makes the game objectively worse.
People always argue that Blizz needs racials, so that they can make money, when the racial meta changes and ppl go buy racechanges, but imo they would make more money by turning racials off, since I believe more people would randomly just racechange every few weeks/months, just because they get bored of looking at their char, more so than having them racechange every year once because of assa rog being hardcountered by dwarf or meld being required to dodge maledict trinkets.
Also Ghostcrawler said in an Interview that the biggest regret he has about WoW’s design is adding racials.
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Thats true about money part. And daamn man, he shouldnt feel bad about racials. I think they are awesome! Just not in rated arenas 
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I mean he doesn’t really feel bad about it, they just asked him if he could go back in time, what is the 1 thing about WoW he would change and he said he wouldn’t introduce racials, so that people can play w.e race they like.
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i want to tip toe on goblin rogue stealth animation too but when ur out of steps u can even make shadowstrike teleport out of meld so its also as mobility per se and serves as dodge or drop combat to stealth, i dont rly need it to hit the mog i want but still it feel cringe to not have the meld so this is garbage design forcing races in a mmo yea
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haha game is truely dead when writing to guy on forum and next ur in same game in shuffle 
that evoker sheeeesh, i wanted him to try avoid dmg on corner so i said play down but the guy just runs mid of enemy or solo up when his team is down 
atleast we got 4-2 out of it, ggs
ive been griefed all night by ppl like this prevoker i need to do great escape
Dude how do you reply twice to the same thread? It tells me other people need to participate if I try to do that
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To stay on topic I cant wait for shadowmeld to be gone from arena its so troll
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what 
idk i just clicked the reply lol maybe its because i replyed directly to slapface
Yea I tried direct reply to other ppl but it just says I need to wait for other people to participate if I want to double post…hmm…weird
glad u got 4-2 guys… I played 4 games today, 3 of them had healer griefers… but like actually griefing (standing still, leaving, trolling etc) not good day for me 
the ques have been some 14min today on 1500mmr alt maybe there has been some heals testing the waters 
theyre testing the mmr today i guess
ye shuffle is a wild one, never personally wanted this kind of design. hope they still improve it and it doesnt take years huh hu
Its an interresting topic tbf,
I personally cannot imagine not having Shadowmeld on my druid, my restealth depends on it as i got no other way to do it. But if they add a restealth to feral as a tradeoff, im down.
As for completely dissabling them in PvP, i think that will never happen even though I completely understand where this is coming from.
I think realistically best that can happen is other racials get a huge buff or straight up a rework.
I really wish druids, hunters and rogues were not force into playing Night Elves.
And other races like Nightborn ,Blood elf, Worgen, Goblin get some playin.
I also think we miss the elephant in the room: Dwarves and Gnomes.
Their racials are NOT weak at all.
Gnomes make really powerful warriors whom you simply cannot kyte.
And Dwarves well… Stoneform is really OP.
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Yeah or Fireblood for Dark Iron Dwarves too…totally insane
Horde has nothing that comes even close to either of those. Stun reduction doesnt do it. Im happy if they give horde equivalents of what the Alliance has, but if I want to be real then disabling racials in rated PvP seems to be the fair solution… as much as it sucks because they are cool
Either outright disable it or make any race be able to use any of the racials in PvP.
Initial reaction is no I like the fantasy etc but
Not being punished for playing a race you prefer aesthetically would be nice and worth it a
Fair play lil goblin fair play