Raid and epic bg fps

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Hey everyone,

so first the problem.

normally when i play wow i am running it around 80 - 100 fps. in the major city’s when its busy i have around 50 fps.
Resolution used : 3440x1440 ( 100 % render scale )
i play on max settings.
However in epic battlegrounds ( wich is alot of players and things happening ) or raids my FPS drops to 20 if not to 10. i can barely play.
The raid is about 30 players big. i turn down all settings up to a point were i can only see blocks on my sceen like im playing minecraft disabled all addons. but nothing seems to improve my FPS or smoothness. maybe a change of 10 fps standing still in the city.

when the boss fight starts its getting aslow as 7 fps and after the first 20 seconds it improves a bit to 20 ish making it barely playable. i did cpu tests and those scores are good. Single player games and other games like call of duty etc on ultra settings run smoothly without problems and around 100 fps.

i deleted wow, reinstalled , benchmarked my pc and cpu but everything turns out normal the scores aren’t the best of the best but still decent on the list

i am really frustrated that i cant raid normal ( epic bg’s are not a must for me ). and i hope anyone can help me get this either sorted or telling me that i need to switch pc components etc.

i am running on a :

Intel(R) core™ i9- 10980XE CPU @ 3.00GHz
Nvidis GeForce RTX 3090
RAM : 64,0 GB (63,7 GB Available
Monitor 1: MSI Optix MPG341CQR

Monitor 2 : AOC AGON AG322QC4 - Curved WQHD VA Gaming Monitor (144 Hz)

i have asked on the wow reddit but noone seems to know whats going on, and multiple players have worse gpu / cpu ( as stated by them ) but run the game perfectly fine.

i played around with all settings and now im completely empty on idea’s.

so im hoping somewere here could help me figure it out.

With kind regards.

Edit: Just Did a Cpu test again,

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/118261250?

and a GPU test
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/118261755?

Those are the results, dont know if this helps.

Thanks!

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Hate to tell you this but 3dmark doesn’t matter at all when it comes to gaming performance.
It’s just for comparison between CPUs/GPUs.

WoW is also a rarer case in todays gaming environment since it’s engine at it’s core is heavily singlethreaded.
So your 18 cores won’t do anything for better FPS in WoW.

What you need is alot of L3 Cache, like the Ryzen X3D CPUs and maximum IPC (fast RAM depending on the CPU helps too).

Did you choose this CPU for workloads? Cause for gaming it’s one of the worst choices.
A 10900K would have been 500Mhz faster than this.

Anyways it matters not now.

All you can do is disable addons and weakauras you don’t absolutely need and/or get a new CPU (+Mobo and RAM in case of platform switch to AM5).

If you’re looking to upgrade i would recommend staying away from Intel atm and get a 7800X3D or wait for the 9800X3D which might have even more L3 Cache.

See here for relative CPU performance in WoW (DF):

https://www.pcgameshardware.de/World-of-Warcraft-Dragonflight-Spiel-73654/Specials/WoW-Dragonflight-Benchmarks-Anforderungen-1408516/2/

You can look at the 10900K but remember, yours is quite alot slower cause of the -500Mhz max Turbo.

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Setup a raid/bg profile like of these:

raid gr quality: 6-8
shadow quality - low
particle density - high
SSAO - low
Depth effects - low
Compute effects - low
Outline mode - high
Texture Resolution - high
Spell Density - Essential
Projected texture - Enabled
View distance - 5
Environment Detail - 10
Ground Clutter - 3-5

In Ashran u will have low fps no matter what u do.

In raids u will not need anti-aliasing as well.

The game is 20 years old, the bottleneck is the system badwith, and the cpu single core speed.

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It will not increase his FPS since he will be heavily CPU-limited.
MSAA is on the GPU and CMAA is free anyways.
Also he has a 3090… just adding more to my point :smiley:

Yes, like i said. So turning down graphics will only help a bit in outdoor areas.

The only CPU relevant graphics settins are:

  • draw distance
  • environmental detail
  • raytracing shadows

All the other stuff like particles, shadows and liquids are hitting the GPU (which is underutilized in a CPU-limited scenario anyways, so by turning these down you are only making the game uglier for almost no FPS gains).

I would also recommend not going over 7 on draw distance and details.

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Ofc it will help, its not a random thing there is raid/bg profile in the settings.

Many video says the same, i can see the results on my computer also.

Everyone knows the single core badwith and speed is the limit. but wont help if everyone would buy a 14900k, or 9900x CPU …
My CPU is 5800x not 3D what is a bit faster CPU than that i9, but i didnt have any problem in raids.

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Thanks for the responds, might need to look into a different CPU eventually then, i bought the PC in corona time were all the hardware was scares as hell, so i bought a prebuild pc. ( HOuse burned down back then and hardware components were barely available ) and i wanted a PC to atleast continue my hobby. normally i build them myself. will indeed take AMD next time. seems like i just gotta have to accept the fact that raids will run this way for me until i can get something else.

Thanks for the responds!

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thank you, i did play around with all settings even turn everything down to 1 and off if possible, but seems like in a heavy player envoirment not much changes. i get a little more but thats it.

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But plz remember to get a X3D model with the large L3 cache, it gives a huge boost in WoW :slight_smile:

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