No everyhing above LFR is useless.
i mean Top World guild are done with new raid in a week or Two kinda is not looking that hard 0
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okay great topic. so retail raiding is very bad at SL i think but even so bad it still new and still thereâs a progression so people who like to racing always gonna choose sl raiding no matter of what. but really i rather play classic raiding. yes so easy but gearing is not so easy like retail. you cannot get ur bis trinket in tbc in 2 weeks. if u do you so lucky then. because u need to roll at least 5 people and win the roll. but in retail meh even u didnt loot it from boss it will come from vault then.
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Well my raiding guild got curve 20th of Feb. We took a break mid March.
Players havenât been online in months or just pushing keys. We had a meeting last night.
Guild is disbanding. 50% are playing TBC and really liking it. The others are on ff14 , and whatâs left are just waiting for new world and another mmo to release.
WoW in itâs current form , nobody is interested. Pretty much this is the concensus for Shadowlands content " i will log in to unlock flying , thatâs about it"
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IF you talking from a STORY and i saw a content i can log off for next 6 months perspective yes
but if you playing the game to progress your character and you like power progresion everything below mythic is useless because LFR raid will never give you the highest stat item or the best trinket or weapon simple as that
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dude⌠this is so true wthâŚ
Itâs a bit hard to make any determination on what people would rather be doing when there is nothing to do in Retail.
Iâm hoping to do both but atm there is nothing in Retail until patch.
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True. Bur mmos are and always will be for most people just about content. Progressing character for sake of progression is waste of time. You should want progress your character becouse it will allow you to beat content no becouse you want to see bigger numbers for no reason.
No it is not
Different mechanics
Different looking gear and item level
Some mythic fights have secret parts
personal player power progression
As i have pointed out to you in the past you keep saying once you do LFR you stop well your achivements with Curve and CEs say different so please stop with hyperbole .
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Different mechanis isnt new content. There hasnt been secret mythic phase what have any impact on story at all.
You can make excuses how you want. As long as this system of difficulty levels remains in the game, most people will always pick path of least resistance and quit right after. And nothing you say will ever change this.
But you havent though so why say this ? you gone on to clear curve and CE after you have done LFR also .
I mentioned nothing of story at all .
Fixed that for you as you have no facts and please do not tell me because you spoke to a dev you know better thats old now .
I am not the one saying so called âfactsâ you are i am just saying my reason and the reasons why SOME others still raid after LFR .
Lot of people prefer TBC raiding because they are easy af , so even bad retail players can get the best gear in the game . And because its not only ilvl upgrade , gear are cool visually . There is no transmog
Tier 5 and Tier 6 are the best sets ever in my view followed by Tier 3
all my mogs are from TBC lol , itâs insane , they look so good
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I made no excuses i said my point of view.
And nothing you can say to me will ever change my view on you and how you post.
You say all people quit after LFR but you have proved yourself wrong as you did not you did Curve and CE after and so i have and many players .
You hasnt fix anything. Current retail state where you have giant spike of players on new content release and withing couple.of days it drops back to its previous state and gamr is empty ahain shows that is actualy truth for most players.
Yes but Blizzard should not want some people play their game. They should want all wow fans not just those who chase challenges and arficial numbers.
Difficulty levels spoil and ruin content progression and make players quit faster.
I still rember how were retailers bashing WoW classic. How it will fail becouse its not acessible game, how people no longer have time to raid and without LFR and other acessability festures players will quit. And it didnt happend at all. In fact classic game have much higher retantion rate of players than retail ever had. Classic end up with stable playersbase while retail have giant spike at begging and huge drop withing couple of days. Thats that difference in game desing physolophie. Classic retains smaller playerbase for long period of time and by smaller i mean millions of players. While retail might spike bit more players at begging but it also losses majority of them withing few days.
But you still did CE and Curve after LFR just like me so your point is moot .
I still remember classic and FF players bashing retail your point is ? and now classic is dead âŚ
It has not though as most moved to TBCC and not in classic because nothing to do outside raid log for staff in Naxx .
Months not days please stop with hyperbole and being dishonest .
I changed your wording as you have no facts or blizzard links so there for its just your subjective view .
Why do you constantly come to retail forums to troll the players if you are so happy in classic and tbcc ?
If you hate retail and its players why do you come here to stir things up just why ? You seem to be happy in classic and TbCC why not just post there and be happy ? or do you enjoy upsetting others ?
you mean classic TBC? because classic is DEAD and TBC classic will be dead in the moment classic WOTLK will be out 
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I know that I wont be able to clear mythic raids in retail. It requires bizzare amount of practice, commitment, luck, gold and time. Even if I spend 12h daily with my style of gaming there is simply no chance ⌠so why should I bother ? I love CN design, Iâve done couple bosses in heroic and it was fun but âŚ
I play games to chill. When I come back after work I just want to log in, chat with friends, cast some lifeblooms on people and enjoy my time. I want to get this sweet golden mace from Prince, set chest from Maggy and relax while clearing raids.
Personaly healing in Shadowlands stress me too much. Itâs constant struggle and I simply cannot enjoy it in >2h game sessions. And it feels so good to see every mob and its abilities. I know exacly when what and for how much my group is going to get hit so itâs easy to enter flow state.
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Is the mace for Maiden not better stats as resto druid ? been so long since i player resto back then .
Edit aslo take a look at the arena mace aswell its pretty good budget wise 