Hello I soon will reach level 85 and raid finder will be available , my question is will there be people playng old raids like icecrown citadel , black temple and dragon soul ? I just want to play them on normal or easy difficulty , what are the queue times in raid finder ? I just want to beat these bosses I don’t care whats the difficulty so will there be people playng them ?
No, Raid Finder is completely unused except at 120 - and at that, it’s barely used except for the most recent raid. We’ve had four raids at 120, and I wouldn’t even try queueing for the first two.
However, if you are powerful enough by overlevelling raids, you can simply walk in, alone, and solo them.
The general rule of thumb is that you need to be at least one expansion and one level above a raid to solo it, depending on class and gear. Two expansions is safer.
At 85, I expect you could solo level 60 raids - Molten Core, Blackwing Lair, AQ20, AQ40.
At 85, I’m not sure you could solo level 70 raids, like Black Temple. Maybe.
For Level 80 raids like Icecrown Citadel, Ulduar, and Naxxramas, I wouldn’t hold out much hope of soloing below level 91, at least not for a rogue in levelling gear, and I would personally wait for 101 to make it practical.
Dragon Soul is a level 85 raid, and I certainly wouldn’t try it below 101.
When walking into an old raid, you may be able to set the difficulty, where that applies. I think the first time you will see it will be in Level 80 raids, though. Right-click your portrait, and choose 10-man and Normal to select the easiest mode, which is what you will want when you first start soloing while levelling.
no, LFRR didnt exist in WoTLK / ICC… and Dragon SOul was the first LFR Raid to be avaliable.
i will be honest not even the latest raids are hugely popular in LFR let alone old ones.
hmm your best bet is likely to find one of the few guilds which actually lock their EXP and partake in these raids as if they’re recent content… or checking out CLassic once it launchs into TBC For black temple.
I’d say the main thing to keep in mind is there is a difference between “Raiding” and simply doing a raid instance.
Raiding is an end-level activity, so don’t expect to do any real raiding before you hit level 120.
Some raid instances exist, for each maximum level of an expansion: 60, 70, 80, 85, 90, 100, 110 and 120.
There are up to 4 different difficulty levels, from easy to hardest they are:
LFR > Normal > Heroic > Mythic.
Some raids only exist as Normal, some in Normal and Heroic, some in all 4, it differs per instance.
There is another Raid mode called “Timewalking”, this isn’t really a difficulty level (it’s comparable to Normal), but it means an old Raid, that might have been say a L70 raid, is now occasionally available as a max level (L120) raid.
If you want to experience a proper raid you’ll have to be max level, so that means 120 at the moment. Options:
- You can then join groups for doing the most recent (or 2 most recent) raid instances (on any of the 4 difficulties), you might find a challenge there depending on the difficulty level. Rewards can include gear upgrades.
- You can also find groups for doing earlier level 120, or level 110 raids where ppl just rapidly lay waste to the whole place (transmog runs and the like), there won’t be a challenge but you will see cosmetic rewards.
- You can occasionally do a Time walking version of an older raid (this is an event, see the Calendar for which weeks this is possible). I think Black Temple, Ulduar and Firelands have time walking versions every so often, there may be others.
If you just want to visit a raid instance and don’t care about the challenge level, then know that you can usually do raid instances without a raid group, when you’re 10 levels above the intended level (ballpark).
So if you want to see ICC (a level 80 raid), and you’re level 90 then you can probably just walk in there alone and kill everything just fine. You can get cosmetic rewards this way (transmog gear and mounts and the like), but it being a low level instance means the gear that drops will be useless for equipping.
To do a level appropriate raid with a group [LFR]:
Use the group finder to queue up for a specific raid wing. This works similarly to how you queue up for dungeons. Queue can be slow, faster if you’re playing a tank- or healer role.
To do a level appropriate raid with a group [not LFR]:
Look in the group finder’s raid category for people manually making groups, then sign up and hope you get picked. The group leaders make their own rules as to what level of gear/experience they expect you to have. Expect a bit of a wait.
To do a Time-walking raid (with a group):
Every week there is one event active for the entire week. If that event happens to be one of the possible Timewalking events, then that raid will be available to queue for in the same way as Dungeons / current-LFR. Queue shouldn’t take too long.
To do a low level raid solo (or with a friend) [not LFR]:
Rightclick your own portrait and set the desired difficulty (normal/heroic/mythic), and (for some instances) whether you prefer a 10- or 25-man tailored version of the dungeon, and then just walk into the raid instance (out in the world). No waiting time.
To do a low level raid solo (or with a friend) [LFR]:
If you want to do an old raid on LFR-difficulty you’ll have to visit a specific NPC to be able to pop in there. See: https://www.wowhead.com/npc=80633/lorewalker-han#comments:id=2861474 . No waiting time.
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That’s a very comprehensive explanation, but this niggles me:
- At least.
Levellers have crap gear, nothing equivalent to endgame 90s, and need the legacy buff.
Then consider class, familiarity, skill.
An experienced player probably could on a tank with Warlords-ready gear at 90. Much easier to wait for 91. Probably worth waiting for 101.
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