Here me out before people who are playing Solo Shuffle that actually like it (basically FOTM rerollers)… RATED SOLO SHUFFLE is going to cause more people to leave PVP, has already drastically reduced the player base in other game modes and has made PVP feel considerably more toxic than ever before.
Solo Solo should be changed to a GAME MODE that does not have a rating
Solo Shuffle should be a separate game mode and not a Brawl but should not be a rated environment. It should be used for the following
- Catch Up mechanic - High levels of Conquest & Honor
- Help new players improve by playing the Arena format in various comps
- a fun activity in which you can solo play at your leisure and if you lose, you lose. You are not competing for MMR, Rating, Titles or Transmog.
- Help you meet players in the solo shuffle enviroment in which you’ve had 6 rounds with that may want to play with you in the future and thus improve the social aspect of wow
Shuffle in it’s actually design is very good, however it’s inception has become a very negative thing for PVP and here are the reason below and why it’s rating environment should be removed
It has deflated & devalued other brackets
- The Toxic environment it creates when people make mistakes because there are huge MMR / Rating swings on losses creates a high negative place.
- Yes rating was capped, however the lack of players pushing arena due to them seeking the rating in solo shuffle has drastically caused the rating to deflate
- the partipation levels of 2s and 3s are absurdly lower because people aren’t opting to que 2s and 3s in between ques because they need to wait for a que pop, and for a lot of people it’s easier to grind out solo shuffle on a FOTM class then it is to find a partner.
- Solo Shuffle has caused an even greater FOTM because Solo Shuffle is that, It’s a solo experience and the best experience is always going to be via the strongest classes
- The wait times due to the rating discrepancies between people mean you end up with ques upwards of 20 minutes.
- It has devalued Arena achievements. Getting Elite in S1 at the end of an inflated season could be 10 solo shuffles…People can link Elite, even Rank 1 when they play a spec that is so hugely deflated that they would never get it elsewhere…
If you want new players… Old Players and Far less toxicnesss
**BLIZZARD YOU MUST REMOVE THE RATED ASPECT OF SHUFFLE AND LET ME ENJOY IT AS A SOLO UNRATED FUN EVENT THAT ALLOWS THEM TO GEAR CONQUEST UNTIL THEY BELIEVE THEMSELVES TO ENTER THE COMPETITIVE 2V2 AND 3V3 EXPERIENCE **
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Oh god, another character you complain on. How many is it now? 5? 10? 20?
But yes. Remove RSS and just let ppl que into Arena Skirmish since thats the true path of glory. It will def make more ppl play PvP. Make it so people have less chance to get elite sets and other rewards. 
All they had to do was copy soloq from priva servers where it has been successful for years but they failed even at that, and now they are failing to patch this garbage system what they put in place
6 round format with its different rulesets to other arena formats is the stupidest design they could had done so at this point it would been better if they never implemented it at all
Agree with op remove soloq or take a look at privas systems and learn from those, this is the paid version of monthly subs and costly expansions it makes no sense to do worse than free platforms
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No man, it needs to be rated.
When someone works to improve to a higher rating they don’t want to get matched up with a blue geared newbie that belongs at 1,5k mmr and 0 rating.
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2s and 3s are garbo brackets toss them into the incinerator
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Even though it has considerable issues I think solo shuffle is one of the better things that was introduced to arena PvP
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Yes should be skirmish mode or brawl. And also they give so much rating in first season. And this season is 1000 rating down. And not real buff to RBG and 2s 3s. In the end pve wins. First week final boss down keys is 20plus for average player. And pvp we get 2k Cr against r1(alt mains second mains…). We are 13week!!! The real target is glad mount. But even for solo the legend is harder for many players that took it last season. RBG you get hero and no need to hit 2400. Those problems in PvP is not new. I think blizzard need to take some direction because if you balance the game in Solo you can’t balance in 3s. And opposite.(also in pve the solo content offer the less why in pvp offer so much???).
If solo shuffle is so bad then why people refuse to play 2v2 and 3v3 and chose to wait up to 30 minute in Q for solo shuffle ?
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To fix solo shuffle, they should introduce 2v2 bracket along with current 3v3 bracket. 2v2 bracket should be DPS only with 3 matches. Also player should be able to queue to both brackets at once.
dps has 2-5min que on soloq on priva 
and its not stupid 6 round format weirdness where some random bobby die cos his too dumb for his own good and then round end cos this boyo is dumb and zoomed into enemy room on start or something
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most people, myself included to an extend, play for rating goals unforchunately.
the biggest problem with shuffle is imo that its the bracket where rating gains are by faar the easiest. thus way less people play 2s and 3s.
i think blizz should increase the inflation of 2s and 3s and decrease it for shuffle.
like lets be real df s1 shuffle was inflated af. i consider myself a duelist player and shuffle made it possible for me to reach 2.8k last season. like wtf. i dont think it should be deleted or anything in this regard but things have to change otherwise the incentive to play the other brackets is too low.
and dont get me wrong, i like shuffle. but as it is rn it kills the other brackets.
As a healer this is not my experience…
ye true from a healer perspective this differs quite a bit.
im wondering kinda why not more healers q the other brackets then.
i just checked.
rn on a sunday evening there are 7 healers and 34 dps in lfg for 2s.
thats a bit rough.
edit: tbf it changes by the minute now its 11 healers but its still very low all together.
2/3s are deflated beyond any value unless u want really high people on something trivial like rivals, there is nothing in 2/3s on 2kmmrs who are not really high people
so what is there to gain for healer to go pushing these 1.8cr / 2kmmr, i personally will not play entire day vs 11x mglad on 1.8cr and do some “community service” for the brachet to play on these trivial rival ratings vs these ppl
this much should be clear, its not like u just go in 2/3s then if ure not enjoying shuffle
blizzard killed the season instead of inflate 2/3s to compensate from s1 shuffle popularity, now its all crap and everyone quit and wait for last month and thats the end of it
mistakes were made, now lets see if they learnt from it and does season 3 still have hope or not
ofc if nobody plays 2s the inflation will be lower substantially since participation is a key factor of it.
i played to 2.1 in 2s 2 weeks ago or sth and it wasnt that crazy in terms of glads from what ive seen. but tbf i dont check my enemys so i can only tell if thyre glads if they use the mount.
but ye all together i can agree that the things blizz did the last two season prob decreased the motivation of many players too much.
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i had to push vs r1s and awc players to get 3 characters 1.8 with 60-70% but i played the first 2-3 months, ive tested some 2s now and then but i see there is still way too many mglad on 2kmmr and im not yet bothering with it personally
i dont have regular teammates I play lfg 90% time and I know these people do not so I cant be bothered for now the difference between effort I have to do win vs them compared how they can win me is too big and the worth / gain equation for this 1.8cr is not that great imo so Ill pass for now
I mean for me it is not worth to “play insane game” and sweat till ur armpits are dripping to gain +11 rating on a 1830cr, its just something that should be for everyone and then push harder for 2.1 and then these really sweaty games start on push for elites and such
I dont want to do it 1.8 onwards, its too long way to play like that 
ye tbf maybe my view of the situation is impaired since i was doing my 2s push before the uhdk nerfs. so even if i faced glads without noticing i had not that much of a hard time dealing with them since my specc was pumping quite hard.
i want to play 2/3s but i dont want to kill myself with stress while doing it, same apply to shuffle tbh
hope they learnt something for season 3 atleast
ps. on funny note i keep getting these for my heals when i kill time with queing shuffles, its worth about 7 gs 90 silvers