Bought a new mouse here. Yay.
Saw there is a macro option, as I can bind a key to press 2 or more buttons with a delay. Is it against TOS?
Can I use this, for instance to press button so it runs the following:
Press Q, 0.2 sec, press R
castsequence macro* doesnt work(AGAIN) for this, so thought why not.
#showtooltip
/castsequence Warbreaker, [@player] Ravager.
Trying to replicate this.
What ya guys think?
You can’t, blizzard policy is 1 click 1 action in game, every other method is forbidden
As if they would ever find out without invasive software on your PC.
They did with me. I had a G15 keyboard and they told me that I was using the macro buttons to play. Remember, you have given Blizzard the right to scan parts of your machine and it’s memory.
As Hardstyle said, it’s against the ToS. Any 1 button click must match 1 action.
All they have to do is either scan the resident memory for active macro software (and they may, you gave them permission via the EULA), or look for highly repetative actions, with very precisely defined inputs, and… bant
It’s easy to make macros with random intervals in between key presses. You can even define random times in between the different states of the key press, such as key down, key pressed, key release. The only thing they can really see is that you have a certain piece of hardware (like a mouse or keyboard), or AHK installed. The latter will be more suspicious to the Warden, but the former has functionality integrated in the driver software.
Banning anyone for use of macros would be pointless, and frankly borderline illegal. I’m not sure how it is in your country, but where I live (in Norway) no contract can ever give you less rights than you already have under the law. That means that regardless what any TOS or EULA say, they do not have the right to scan your system for anything, no matter if you agree to it or not.
That said if you go completely bonkers and start making intricate automated scripts, then we’re moving beyond the threshold of macros and into botting, which is another matter entirely.
“To play the game we need to monitor your machine for 3rd party software that violates the rules, do you consent to this?”
“Sure go on ahead.”
“Alright, then we’re banning you as we found out you’re violating the rules.”
“What that’s illegal you can’t monitor me!”
I hope you see how absurd that sounds.
And if we assume that really is what the law says in your country and people press the issue on a legal level, I believe this will ultimately lead to denial of service to your country.
I think it’s funny when people being an armchair lawyer assume they are right, Valfader, could you please link the specific law this is breaking in Norway.
Read their Anti-Cheating Agreement, they don’t scan your whole system memory or system overall. Just the part that is occupied by their games, the Windows Process List (weird that it is specifically Windows, but well), the game’s own process and the Windows Handles.
The software to make these macros in is not directly forbidden, since it is also used to simply configure your devices. F.e. to alter the function of your buttons.
They probably can detect certain input automation. And that form of automation surely is a violation of the EULA.
I know what it says
Consent to Monitor. WHILE RUNNING, THE PLATFORM (INCLUDING A GAME) MAY MONITOR YOUR COMPUTER OR MOBILE DEVICE’S MEMORY FOR UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAMS RUNNING EITHER CONCURRENTLY WITH A GAME OR OUT OF PROCESS. AN “UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM” AS USED HEREIN SHALL BE DEFINED AS ANY THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE PROHIBITED BY SECTION 1.C. ABOVE. IN THE EVENT THAT THE PLATFORM DETECTS AN UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM, (a) THE PLATFORM MAY COMMUNICATE INFORMATION BACK TO BLIZZARD, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION YOUR ACCOUNT NAME, DETAILS ABOUT THE UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM DETECTED, AND THE TIME AND DATE; AND/OR (b) BLIZZARD MAY EXERCISE ANY OR ALL OF ITS RIGHTS UNDER THIS AGREEMENT, WITH OR WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE TO THE USER. Additionally, certain Games include a tool that will allow your computer system to forward information to Blizzard in the event that the Game crashes, including system and driver data, and by agreeing hereto you consent to Blizzard receiving and/or using this data.
Clearly not, since you link the regular EULA and not the specific Anti-Cheat Agreement.
You clearly didn’t read my post. It doesn’t matter if the TOS/EULA says that you give up your soul. No contract can give you less rights than you already have by law.
Understand this, then we can move on.
Alright, have fun with Blizzard not doing business with your country.
Or you can simply get a grip on how law is practiced.
And what does Norwegian law say on this subject, please link the applicable law, not just state your opinion of what you think it is.
I am no expert on it but I do know UK consumer law and it is allowed.
Why would they do business with a country whose laws don’t let them to do the same they do with any other place. Especially since Norway has less than 10% of the UK population for example. Doesn’t sound cost efficient to me.
I’m sure you can figure out how to use a translator of your choice.
Source:
http://jusinfo.no/index.php?site=default/721/839/842/842
https://lovdata.no/dokument/NL/lov/1918-05-31-4Dersom avtalen gir dĂĄrligere rettigheter enn loven, vil partene mĂĄtte forholde seg til den lovfestede regel og den minstebeskyttelse som loven legger til grunn.
Roughly translated: “If any agreement gives worse rights than the Law, the parties involved will have to relate to the written law and the minimum of protection it establishes”.
This applies to any trade done with EEA and beyond. You might want to argue that individual companies would not do business with a country that doesn’t give them the right to do whatever they want, but that would severely limit their global reach.
What I do know is Blizzard would have checked with Norwegian legal practitioners about their ToU and made sure it complies with the law. Some unofficial site link will not really give the law, just someone’s interpretation of it.
Would you mind stating the part which Blizzard break by scanning your machine?
Which is why I asked for the law on it, not some law firms site.