Really down about Torpedo in SL :(

Sorry, read patch notes wrong, started a topic that wasn’t relevant and killed it. Take two!

So I’ve finally caught up on monk changes, and the one that’s biting at me is Chi Torpedo charges down from 2 to 1.

So… we can swap 2 charges of Roll, for 1 of Torpedo.

OR

Take Tiger’s Lust and keep 2 charges of Roll AND have a little sprint/root-breaker on a 2nd button.

Why… why would I ever take Torpedo in SL now? Most of the time, Roll will get me out of most PvE mechanics on its own; 2 charges will definitely do the job. The speed after Torpedo is often wasted as I then plant my feet to heal, but sometimes it is useful and it is glorious.

Thing is, double Torpedo pinball is a joy every single time I use it, in combat or not, in a raid, or in a city. It’s one of the reasons I recommend people try monk when they’re not sure what to play, and taking it away from me really bites.

Curious as to whether anyone else is as bummed about this as I am, and whether anyone has a good reason to still talent Torpedo in SL?

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I love chi torpedo and I will be sad it will lose its charge, but to be honest, in BfA, especially toward the end, I always used Tiger’s Lust, because of its snare dispell and the ability to cast it on allies (flag carrier, slow dk tank, etc. :D)

I haven’t looked at all the changes yet, but I do hope at least Tiger’s Lust stays as it is. I already miss Chi torpedo. I think half my deaths at Manoroth in HFC were a torpedo off the platform… :smiley:

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I mean there were definitely times when Tiger’s needed to be used. Wrathion mythic for one; when you have DKs or priests in the group who are already slow, they need some help.

But I would always burn a tome and immediately swap to Torpedo when the fat dragon started singing.

I dunno. It’s not catastrophic, and I think it’s likely that dungeon+raid performance will barely change… but I will really miss the sonic boom feeling of a double torpedo. That was a defining feature of this class for me, especially since all our specs could have it.

Was going to raise a horde monk after pre-patch, but with reduced mobility I’m not so sure I want to :frowning:

Mostly I’m cross because monks are not OP. Nobody says “oh, monk, that’s the FOTM class!” so why nerf us at all? We’re the least represented, can’t we have one thing that just plain good? Why not nerf the classes that are the most popular, try and spread people out a bit?

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Yes, and our best friend druid gets to keep its wild charge that has 4 functions, its dash and its catform.

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What is the difference between the PTR and the Beta client in terms of class design? Where did you read Chi Torpedo is losing 1 charge? My monk on the PTR still has 2 charges on Chi Torpedo, I’ll be very very angry if Chi Torpedo definitely loses 1 charge for SL. I’ve not seen any WW beta testers talking about this on YT and I watched plenty of WW videos up until a couple of weeks ago, is this recent?

EDIT: Just watched a WW video from the Beta posted yesterday and unless it was recorded earlier than the day it was uploaded, Chi Torpedo still has 2 charges.

Druid has been my secondary character all through BfA - and was my raiding main through end of Wrath and start of Cata. I do enjoy that class a lot, and there is definitely a part of me saying go with the druid in SL… However, my guild has several other druids and only 1 other monk (he’s WW, I’m MW), so it makes more sense to stick with monk and hope for a brighter future.

Initially, I was told in another thread by several people. Checking the notes on wowhead, updated 5th October… https://www.wowhead.com/shadowlands-monk-class-changes

…that lists Torpedo as reduced from 2 charges to 1.

There is a chance that actually the notes are badly written. Roll rank 1 has a single charge; rank 2 adds a second. It’s not impossible that Torpedo ranks up with Roll, and has an equal number of charges.

I certainly hope this is the case, but it became evident in various discussions I had yesterday that other players also think we’re down to 1 Torpedo :frowning:

Yeah saw it now, thanks. I’ll be very angry if this happens but I’m still hopeful as I’ve seen that video uploaded 2 days ago and the WW Monk had 2 Chi Torpedo charges. I doubt that was older footage just uploaded now.

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I did not propose you to reroll…
I just pointed out how blizzard buthers mobility from all classes while leaves the fastest of all untouched.

Blizzards spoiled brats…

Then fingers crossed that it’s just the way the notes are written :slight_smile:

I know, it’s just something that my brain’s been shouting at me :slight_smile:

I love this class, but pinball movement is one of the reasons I love this class. If it has been taken away while DHs and Druids have their mobility untouched… the temptation is bound to arise.

Most likely I’ll raise both classes to 60 fairly quickly and make a decision then.

I’m also always torn between Monk and DH, that’s the only 2 classes I can spend any time playing nowadays and the reason is the superior mobility. That said I always gravitate towards Monk because I feel stronger in 1v1 pvp playing Monk. No cd castable heals > 40% leech during Meta for my playstyle.

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Tbh, I just find monk the most aesthetically pleasing in general.

Druid, again, I do like druid, used to main it, very tempted to do so again.

DH… I know they have powerful mobility, but they’re just so out of place outside of Legion. I’m sure they were fine and sensible back at the time, but watching one go fishing in Boralus is comical :smiley:

Yeah I like druid too, I just don’t personally find their mobility is on par with Monk and DH, yeah I know this may sound weird with all the forms and root cleansing but it’s not like they have “burst” movement other than that weird short jump and the long cd sprint, it’s just a different level for me. They have much more going on for them than the mobility though.

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Low level monks have 1 charge of roll in Beta. The second charge becomes available on higher levels.

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Yeah we were speculating about that. Torpedo specifically states one charge reduced from two. We’re not sure if it becomes 2 with rank 2 roll.

As I say a WW video uploaded yesterday on YT shows Chi Torpedo having 2 charges, I assume the footage is recent but I didn’t ask the author if that’s old footage. So fingers crossed we keep the 2 charges.

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We keep it 100%. Blizzard split many abilities in two because every level up in SL should reward something and this is a cheap way to do it.

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Amen to that!

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Then hopefully it’s just bad wording on wowhead and failing to mention Torpedo increases to 2 charges when Roll does the same :slight_smile:

Mobility is the heart and soul of monks, I’d be so gutted if they dropped some…

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Sadly we lost a lot of mobility going from Legion to BfA.

I skipped Legion so I might not have noticed ^^;

Did play in WoD, but that was when FoF still had a stun and stopped us moving, so that might not be a good comparison anymore.

(I do miss that stun though!)