Reckless Abandon Causing Stutter - Need Testers

Classes Warrior
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First of all, I’ve reported this as a bug already. I’m aware this isn’t the place to report bugs. I need help though as it’s driving me crazy and I’d like to see if more Warriors have the same issue (there is one that documented the same thing)

Reckless Abandon Causes FPS Stutter when using Abilities it effects (Rampage, Bloodbath and Crushing Blow).

I have tested this thoroughly, with no addons whatsoever, all my usual addons, all up to date addons. I’ve tested it with low settings, high, vsync off, on. Gsync off/on. Pretty much every combination you can think.

With Reckless Abandon talented I get frame stutter in all scenarios above, the second I talent out of it into Anger Management? 100% smooth, no issues whatsoever. Now, the interesting part? the stuttering gets worse if using any of the common warrior weakauras from Luxthos, Afenar etc. etc. (tested the most used 5). Without addons it’s a lot less noitceable, but still a slight stutter, compared to it being completely eliminated when talenting out.

This other warrior reported the same issue a year ago:

Their solution (in another thread on the US bug report) was that he had a goblin glider Macro on his action bar that caused it. Unfortunately, this didn’t work for me I tried removing every single ability with a macro from the bars, (cleared bars entirely infact) and still does it.

Can my fellow warriors give it a simple test on your setup? and report back please. it might be VERY minimal, but switch back and forth from AM and RA and using Rampage, CB, and BB see if you get a frame stutter (please move your camera as you do it, pretend you have adhd).

Thanks.

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just tried it on the dummies in dorn m8 no stuttering or anything,im in 3840x2160,full hdr on a 55inch oled tv on a 7950x3d with a 4080super @ 150 frames capped.

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Appreciate you testing it mate, thanks.

Just to add my specs 1440p, 3080 / 5900x. I play at 144hz. With Reflex so locked fps under that amount (again, tested it with, without, as many combinations as I can think of).

Obviously not expecting this to be an issue for every single warrior, it seems like a very specific problem but a problem nonetheless.

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Same here, FPS stutter is happening, when I don’t enable V-Sync.
If I enable it, then no issues.
(After enable it, you have to restart game… :slight_smile: )
(I know that 60FPS is enough for 60hz, but higher FPS: lower input delay)

Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 GAMING X
GPU: ZOTAC GeForce RTX 4080 16GB Trinity OC
CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K
RAM: Corsair VENGEANCE CL36 (2x16GB) 32GB 6000MHz DDR5 RAM (XMP profile active)
SSD: Samsung 980 Pro M.2 2TB
Monitors: 2 x LG UltraWide 25UM58-P 60Hz

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To be clear, with Reckless Abandon talented, you get FPS Stutter? and don’t without it talented. But a solution to no FPS drop with it talented for you was enabling V-Sync?

To add to this, mine stutters whether V-Sync is enabled or disabled, with RA talented. It doesn’t stutter at all without RA talented whether Vsync is enabled or disabled.

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Exactly.

To add to this, mine stutters whether V-Sync is enabled or disabled, with RA talented. It doesn’t stutter at all without RA talented whether Vsync is enabled or disabled.

Enabling V-Sync only solves this issue, if I restart the game after enabling it.

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Okey, seems like after some time it is happening even if v-sync is enabled…

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Did a full fresh complete install of WoW as well, it was the only thing left to try and it’s driving me crazy. This was a complete fresh install, nothing saved, addons 1 by 1 etc.

The stutter however came whenever the icons are on show in anyway for the abilities affected by Reckless Abandon (Raging Blow, Crushing Blow, Rampage, Bloodthirst, Bloodbath). So using Bartender4? stutter. Using a popular weakaura (Luxthos etc.) stutter. I even removed (didn’t load) the icon section of the weakaura itself and the stutter disappeared for the most part but still slightly there.

As always, the stutter immediately goes when I talent outside of RA no matter whats loaded, what settings, and with every single addon. This is not a graphical issue, this is not an addon issue. This is not my PC not handling it somehow (130-140fps). After thorough testing I can only come to the conclusion that for whatever reason the Reckless Abandon talent causes stutter when Icons are in use with any addon / weakaura and it’s to do with something on Blizzards end, maybe the way the icons are forced to change to different ones? RB to CB for example.

I’m aware this probably isn’t an issue for many, but there’s a few documented examples now and there might actually just be a fair few that simply don’t notice it but it’s there.

Really would appreciate more testers if possible.

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I hit the dummy with this talent for 5 minutes and didn’t notice any FPS drops. However, this was after the hotfixes of 4/9 on weekly restart and 5/9 the day after reset.

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Interesting, it seems to have improved a lot, but still there in a very minor but noticeable capacity (still a judder). Need to do more testing.

Out of curiosity, you moved the camera a lot while doing it? The main ‘stutter’ comes on pressing Rampage.

Is there any patch notes that even mention it? didn’t know there was a hotfix.

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I can confirm that this issue exists, and it wasn’t fixed.

The severity of the problem depends oddly on which warrior WA I use. With Luxthos like you, the stutter is absolutely horrific, the game literally stops for about half a second every time I press Rampage. I tried Hijack’s pack now, the stutter is still there, but it is like a microlag compared to the other WA.

I can also confirm without a doubt that for me disabling every weakaura fixes the issue completely, the game is butter smooth even when I Rampage, which is pretty sad, because I need a WA…

I’m playing with an AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D CPU and a Radeon RX 6950 XT GPU.

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Okay, I tested it continuously for 2 days and I can confirm that it is related to WeakAura.

If you have any WeakAura that tracks the cooldowns of Bloodthirst/Bloodbath or RagingBlow/CrushingBlow in any way, or for example, the Action usable condition, then after a while, the stuttering will occur.

Not just when using Rampage, but also when using those two spells, meaning anytime the Bloodbath/Crushing Blow buffs appear or disappear, or when there are changes in the charges of RagingBlow/CrushingBlow, or cooldown changes.

I don’t know if WeakAura messed something up, but I don’t think so, because when it was just the Reckless Abandon buff, there was no such issue.

The more WeakAuras you have tracking these two spells, the faster the stutter effect occurs.

It’s as if WoW is caching something, and after a while, the cache fills up, causing the lag.

This means that if you have a more powerful computer and are using a simpler WeakAura for your UI, like CritCake, you might be able to play for hours without experiencing any lag.

However, with a more complex UI that tracks more aspects related to these two spells, you’ll notice the issue sooner. And if you don’t have a high-end PC, you might experience the stutter fairly quickly, even with a simpler UI.

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First of all, thanks for testing guys, it’s nice to know this is a genuine issue and others are facing it and very specifically too. Tested again thoroughly just now under all conditions.

All addons / weakauras active and loaded:

With RA - Stutter
Without RA (AM Instead) - Smooth.

All Addons OFF other than Weakauras (With Afenar pack loaded):

With RA - Stutter
Without RA (AM Instead) - Smooth.

All Addons ON, Weakauras ON but NO Afenar Warrior Pack:

With RA - Smooth.
Without RA (AM Instead) - Smooth.

All Addons ON, Weakauras ON, Afenar Pack loaded but CORE skills not loaded (i.e. ones that show the abilities in question Rampage, CB etc.).

With RA - Smooth.
Without RA (AM Instead) - Smooth.

So I’ve literally dialed this down to, it’s perfectly fine, till you’re using a weakaura that is loaded, or part of a weakaura in this case, that shows or has any connection to Rampage, then in turn RB/CB or BT/BB.

Solution? I’ve no idea. They’re pretty important to use. Is this a Weakaura’s addon issue? is it a WoW client issue? It’s not just Afenar, it’s Luxthos too, as pointed out above. This isn’t localised to one pack.

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"I have the same problem with multiple WeakAuras tracking Raging Blow, Bloodthirst, and their empowered versions, along with Reckless Abandon. I’m not using any packs, just multiple auras I’ve created myself.

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The Weakaura team have already fixed this after someone else opened a bug report on their github.

It’s fixed in their Alpha, and should be out before Raid.

Thanks to everyone who did some testing and helped play a part in fixing this for a lot of warriors. Here’s hoping that’s all issues with RA gone.

After new update I still appear to be getting the stutter after pressing Rampage and followup spells. Anyone else able to confirm? meant to be fixed.

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