Recommend a PvP spec for a boomer

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Hi, I haven’t played retail in Shadowlands and even Shadowlands was just a short episode. I hit 2.3k in RBGs since they were popular during the beginning of the expansion and then I left.

I came back to retail with TWW, because I like the idea of playing the solo shuffle and possible BG Blitz. The advantage of playing rated whenever I want instead of arranging times and meetings with other players is amazing.

I played disc, spriest, fury warrior and DH so far. I wasn’t able to get past 1750 and I feel frustrated. There are so many things happening on the screen, so many abilities have smth passive related to it, they trigger other stuff or they’re modified with smth you want to press before etc. I feel like I’m too slow and I simply can’t manage to watch everything. When I play the disc, my dps sometimes die in 3-4 seconds so I keep watching their HP bars, healing both, switching between them, do dmg whenever I can, dispel, but I simply don’t have time to watch enemy CDs, my dps def CDs, CDs for interrupts, enemy CDs and my positioning which exposes me to CC chains. I have all the information on my screen, it’s setup in a way that it shows only “necessary” stuff, but it’s still too much information.

It feels better when I play the fury warrior. The dps rotation is simple, you don’t focus too much on supporting your team, you CC with stormbolt + fear, but it’s fine. On the other hand, even though I have the right gear and secondary stats, I feel like my dps is generally crap in arenas when I get kited too much and have nothing to hit around and I also die quite easily.

I made a shadow priest, setup my keybinds, did one random BG to get used to it and even though we lost, I demolished the opponents. I had about 28 kills, no deaths. I stepped into the solo shuffle and even though I felt like I didn’t know what I’m doing most of the time, I topped the dmg done. In some arenas, I felt like a god, but in some cases I had 2 melees on me, and I didn’t cast a single spell for about 25s except the thing that instantly does dmg and applies dots. I got kicked twice, stunned, feared, gripped into the cast, incapped etc. Even both healers did more dmg than I did :smiley:

I’d like to focus on 1-2 classes and try to play them more, maybe start recording the gameplays, pay for the coaching etc. Which class and spec do you recommend and WHY? I really need something that doesn’t require too many buttons to press. I feel like the fury warrior is probably one of the right choices.

I like the idea of playing a healer since you have insta queues compared to sometimes 20+ minutes, but switching between yourself, 2 dps, 3 enemies, healing + doing dmg is probably too overwhelming for me.

BTW DH was usually noob friendly, I tried it, it rotation is simple, but I felt soooo squishy. Any feral or rogue could 100-0 me in a stunlock.

Thanks for your tips.

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In comparing Fury and Spriest atm, you’re comparing a spec that isn’t doing too great in arena after the nerfs, to a spec that does really well at the moment after getting buffs.

Warriors(any many other melees) do generally suffer from getting kited a lot. On the opposite side of the playingfield, as you explain you’ve also already experienced on the Spriest, casters suffer from getting trained a lot and not being able to cast in heavy melee lobbies. Everyone seem to think the grass is greener on the other side, but both melee and caster has its annoyances tbh.

If I was you, I would figure out what you enjoy more, and narrow your options down a bit. You’re gonna have to climb a bit of a learning-curve either way, but would you rather learn to kite well, fake-cast and then pump dmg with Precognition? Or would you rather have to learn how to utilize your mobility well, so you won’t be kited as much and zug zug?

Once you’ve narrowed your options down a bit that way, it’ll be easier for you to pick a spec :smiley:

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Thanks for the answer. I mostly played melees, but standing for 6s in simple druid or shaman roots or in a frost nova, watching the casters running away from me and casting their strongest spells drives my crazy :smiley:
Btw when I look at Drustvar, fury war is the most common melee and spriest is the top ranged in EU 1800+. I also tried the affli lock, but keeping the dots on everyone and then performing the big burst that requires about 4-5 buttons to press including casting (and making sure your dots are still up) is a big no no for me :smiley:

Rogue has always been my main character, but I gave up on rogue a few expansion ago. It’s requires so much CC to do that I just gave up.

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MM Hunter.

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Yea, you’re definitely not alone with that :sweat_smile:

In my experience, melee tend to have a bit of an easier time in uncoordinated solo PvP, where casters really get to shine in coordinated ro higher rating play where they actually have team mates who put some effort into peeling melees off. This is because melees usually have more gap-closers than rangeds have gap-openers (with the exception of Devastation evokers, Hunters and Mages)

At the highest level of course, both melees and rangeds are very viable. Melees just tend to shine a bit more and have an easier time at lower ratings, where rangeds lives improve a lot in higher rating.

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Have you considered Death Knight? They’re a melee that does well into casters and isn’t overly complicated.

Their natural counter is other melees mostly, as they’re more of an anti-magic fighter. But they’re less frustrating against casters

I feel like DK is a good bet for a melee that isn’t as frustrating when it comes to being kited, and Hunter as Brilho mentioned, is a good bet for a ranged that doesn’t suffer as much as other rangeds(casters) when getting trained by melees

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Sounds like your best bet is bm hunter or dps lizard, both of these are as simple as fury but it’s all ranged, both can cast while moving and the damage can’t be stopped.

Also they are very overtuned right now, so should be easy to do well with them.

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I heard Holy Pala is quit a simple and strong heal atm.

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Just wanna add, that 1750 ain’t actually bad atm, assuming we’re talking about arena.

Solo shuffle is MMR capped atm, and all the multi-glads and R1 players are all in the range of like 2-2.4k atm. Compared to Blitz, where the highest rated players are 3.2k atm, I wouldn’t feel bad about 1750 CR at all.

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Yeah, I’m talking about the solo shuffle arena. I’m around 1.7 on 4 different specs, but I can’t get any further.

When it comes to Blitz, I don’t have a good feeling about it. I think some classes and specs can really influence the outcome when it comes to taking and protecting bases, but as a disc priest or spriest, I just heal or pump dmg while we lose other bases than the one I’m fighting at :frowning:

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When you play healer you get frustrated by dps that los the heals and have bad awareness.

When you play caster you get frustrated by constantly getting kicked, stunned or controlled when you try to make a play.

When you play melee you get frustrated by constantly getting micro cc and even your team mates kites your peels and damage.

Personally I felt like warrior was a good choice, they are not so stressful since you don’t get targeted all the time unlike a caster.

I played a healer last expansion too, it was nice to have something to play when you didn’t had time to sit in 20 minute queues and it gave a better understanding how healers experience the games.

I enjoyed Shadow priest as well but I felt it was quite stressful to always have someone pummeling me and trying to shut me down as long and often as they could.

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BM hunter is sleeper

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May want to look into Hunter, they are really strong and ranged without needing to cast. Can be a bit on the squishy side but still have a pretty decent toolkit. BM might be easier, not sure but MM also good. I personally also feel like Mage is super strong and not very hard, maybe too many buttons though but with all their blinks and cc’s they feel super kity and easy to survive with compared to a lot of other casters.

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