Imagine if they’d taken the crews set up in Exiles Reach, and THEY were our new travel buddies.
Like. Just imagine. No more Saved The World Already heroes doing grunt work.
No. Us and them. Equals, questing, adventuring.
Imagine…
-sigh-
(Ok, some of the VAs would make me want to murder people, Gnoooooooommmeeee!!!)
I don’t know what Horde characters they could import in 11.1 to interact with the Haranir that make any sense. Trolls and druids would make sense, but there haven’t been any characters present in the War Within who fall into either of those categories. Suddenly plopping Rokhan, Zen’tabra, Loti or Hamuul on Khaz Algar out of nowhere would feel like Blizzard pulled them out of its backside.
I get the feeling that they will probably stick with the core cast of the War Within, which doesn’t include any Horde characters - despite appearing in some promotional art, Thrall’s relevance begins and ends with him acting as a mentor to a stormrider for half a dozen quests. Lilian’s more relevant than him, and she only gets roughly an hour in the spotlight in the spider zone.
Plus the haranir are closer to night elves than they are to trolls, with the strong druidic focus that they have. So claiming them exclusively for the Horde feels wrong to me, even if I’d like for some Horde characters to interact with them at some point.
If Rexxar does end up as the next Delve follower then I see that as a stronger indication of a more Horde-centric plot for the next season.
Sons of Lothar were the central characters in Season 1, Rexxar’s Regicides will replace them in S2!
[bravely] I think both factions should get content that appeals to them at the same time and not have to wait 6-12 months (or longer) between stuff that appeals to them.
I hope that they do add more Horde content, but splitting it so rigidly? Sucks! It’s bad. They shouldn’t do that.
I agree on this bit, too. When I played MoP Remix it did really hurt how much of the old storyline focused on the ideals of the factions, rather than just the main characters (this, ironically, applied even more for the Horde than the Alliance).
But today at the very least someone like Anduin or Tyrande still represent their people to some degree. What is the last character that represented the Horde in some capacity?
Calia Menethil? Lilian Voss? These were neutral characters until BFA, ironically.
Thrall? In what way? He has no real arc here.
Even the one Horde character they placed in the expansion doesn’t have a direction.
Massively agree here. They’re introducing 2 races that each have the vibe of 1 specific faction, making them neutral is a choice I can not wrap my head around.
I truly don’t know who was waiting for horde rock-dwarves. Not counting people who haven’t been invested in Horde a day in their life.
Yeah like I hinted at in my post, the smidgem of horde we see (thrall on the isle, liadrin in hallowfall) are busy helping out not-dwarves and not-humans for their seconds of screentime.
The imbalance of it all is bad for the soul.
On a total sidenote I am still displeased with them replacing the cool longstanding pvp warmaster troll guy on the horde ships with some nobody noname zandalari captain
If you’re not gonna let horde have a story at least let horde have rad characters
Watch them write in massive Alliance/Arathi/Anduin questlines in Midnight while the Horde should be the main focus.
Please no, not another dwarf race…
We already have them.
The fact they can’t be druids sickens me. The stone forms from artifacts are already there.
Also they have those freywold druidic Earthen D:
This is why I make the seperation between faction characters and the Avenger-esque main character squad.
They’re the right species to be part of the alliance/horde but their behavior is on the whole as unaligned as Dalaran. People are clamouring for Thrall to do something but he’d be behaving the same way if he was.
The quest giver being an orc or a human isn’t enough to make something a faction story, they have to be flying the faction flag too. The only Big Name npcs I’ve encountered actually repping their faction are Turalyon and Gre’yarah who sit on the beach blustering at each other.
Okay but isn’t it a bit weird how the Avenger characters are just the Alliance plus Thrall.
I mean, they villain-batted Sylvanas (who, lets be honest, would have been GREAT to have for a ‘Our masters were obscuring the truth and some were Not Nice’ story arc…), Gazlowe hasn’t properly replaced Gallywix yet, in terms of presence, Rokhan is… uh… -looks behind the sofa-
Yeah 
Oh, and people bully Baine every time he shows up :<
Metzen did go on record @ WoD to say the Alliance is the NATO “Lawful Good” Allegory whilst the writers prefer to write the Horde because they’re more “gritty, neutral and chaotic, they can be more morally ambiguous”.
…Morally gray…
…Morally gray…
…Morally graaaaaaaaaaaaay…
If his behaviour seldom differs from one of a steak, it’s just right to call things as they are?
The New Council of Tirisfal wasn’t much better on its racial breakdown but at least it had an undead (Meryl, basically neutral), an orc (Rehgar, still don’t know how they swung a former slaver into that job) and a tauren (Hamuul).
Like if you wanted prominent Horde characters to do notable stuff it’s not hard to find a few. Hell you can throw one out there for each class. Just replace half of them with Alliance characters and bam you got your Avengers list.
Warrior: Nisha
Paladin: Sunwalker Dezco (redeeming himself of his baby armour)
Death Knight: Koltira
Hunter: Patch (and the rest of the Gob Squad)
Shaman: Muln Earthfury
Evoker: honestly none of them really stand out so we might have to grab Emberthal for a neutral pick here sorry the dracthyr really got abandoned by the lore in DF, and moreso afterwards
Rogue: Garona
Druid: Hamuul
Demon Hunter: Allari the Souleater
Monk: Ji Firepaw
Priest: Master Gadrin
Mage: Oculeth
Warlock: Jubeka Shadowbreaker
Notably no faction leaders here either, 'cept Ji, but that’s because I needed a panda and he’s literally the only one. Also Huojin philosophy means he’s the sorta dude that would be all about this instead of standing around.
I expect that laying it out like this people will point out alternatives - instead of Nisha, what about Eitrigg? Instead of Koltira, what about Trag Highmountain? Instead of Patch and the Gob Squad, what about Rexxar? Instead of Hamuul, what about Wardruid Loti? Instead of Oculeth, what about Vivianne your Garrison Bodyguard?
And they’d be right, there are options. We’re not bereft of choices for Horde characters (or even just Horde races that are otherwise neutral) to make up the Azeroth Avengers.
It’s a matter of will and desire from Blizz, not existing stuff to draw from.
Absolutely agreed.
And the “We can only focus on our Big Name Characters” is a massive weakness on Blizzard’s part, IMO. It’s a main gripe, along with their apparent inability/unwillingness to move away from World Ending Threat writing.
Lillian Voss falls out of the bushes quite often and decides to do things with us…
It fills me with something
It’s impossible to like Lilian as a character since they basically changed her entire personality and ideology between expansions for no reason. Whoops!!!
My boy Hamuul. Malfurion was gone, making him the defacto leader of the Cenarion Circle and they did nothing with it during the invasion of the Emerald Dream.
Both Malfurion and Hamuul got done dirty by Blizzard in what should’ve been their patch!
Lets be honest, Blizzard sucks at making racially diverse casts.
Yea they might make one character of a race more prominent then others for a small while.
But that does not remove the Human High Command-stain from the BfA Alliance or the fact that the most neutral of neutral cities and factions, Dalaran and the Kirin Tor, is led solely by Humans aswell.(or a Dragon cosplaying for a half-Human for some reason)
so yea, its basicly this
I still find it extremely weird and jarring that both Tess, and Shandris, have Lillian Voss as their go-to-Horde contact???
Tess could be explained by way of the Uncrowned… But Shandris sticking it to a Keeper to stand with an Undead, like wat???