https://banishsoul.com/class-races/shaman
Every PvP player and their mother is playing an orc anyway, and for good reasons.
You can’t afford to take a full duration 6 second stun in Shadowlands. You just can’t.
Disable racials in PvP. Reduce stun duration by 20% across the board.
Nobody would notice the difference anyway since all PvP players are already benefitting from this effect, the only change it’d make is that we could at last play a character we actually enjoy looking at.
People do notice the difference in GCDs.
Especially Rogues.
Talk about horrible suggestions. No.
please no ._.
Please come up with a logical reason not to do it.
Everyone is an orc. My suggestion is already in place. What this change would make is simply allow players to pick another race for aesthetic reasons.
Horde have nothing but orc in PvP races on choice. Ally have much more variants in class/race.
noob WW 10 chars
Bad suggestion. This would be a huge nerf to some speccs. Especially to sub rogues which has nothing but cc.
They should change the orc racial instead, so it is not so op.
+10% more food buff i think.
That’d be an indirect nerf to healers.
I don’t think a change like this is likely to happen (even though I think it would be nice because I don’t like to play orc myself). But neither will a stun reduction across the board hopefully.
If I wasn’t a zugzug hater I’d play Orc Warrior for racials, but can’t endure playing as a zugzug for 3 min, I’m allergic to it.
They need to decrease Orc stun reduction to 10% for balance reasons because they have really powerful burst racial alongside it.
Except their dmg ofc?
Also rework human racial to broke only roots.
How about they gut Shadowmeld, Every Man for Himself (or whatever the name is nowadays) and Hardiness so people can actually play races they enjoy playing without shooting themselves in the foot.
Oh wait, this was already suggested over 10 years ago. Not going to happen I’m afraid.
So what you are saying is - remove sub rogue from pvp … because youd like every class to be able to rock orc racial even the ones who dont have orc on option
Just no. I mean, even if people complain about race abilitys I’ve noticed more variation on races played now than I saw years back… before it was human unless you couldn’t be that class as human (nelf druid) because every man was basically a “ok I can use to offensive trinkets” before change , now I regularly see humans nelf, di dwarf , sometimes worgen , gnome .
Yes some are maybe better at the highest level of play but when there are worgen rogues at 2200 cr I’m pretty sure it’s not that critical to success that you are the most optimal race
Ps horde DO have more options, troll is still a decent pick for haste loving classes, panda actually works for some comps that uses rogue because in combat sap, undead is still decent.
Yeah that’d be pretty good as well.
Yeah, then we could delete all other classes you are not playing while we are at it. That would make a fun and interesting game, right?
I’d rather they just disable racials in the instanced PvP without reducing the CC durations in general. It’d be cool to see more racial diversity on the ladder and in the AWC. Right now it’s mostly just orcs, humans, night elves and tauren.
To be honest awc is like professional play and you cant really expect them to not try seize every tiny perceived advantage that fits the meta. Like the race abilities are not so critical they determine what you can play for the most part. Some classes gain a little more value than others I mean my main rogue is a nelf and I’d say in arena that’s a much more significant choice than the race I choose for my warlock (worgen) which felt very small by comparison to my human/orc warlock.
also arena is like one form of instanced pvp some people actually enjoy rated bgs and some of the top arena picks are not actually as strong as some off meta race picks in that regard. I actually hate playing my nelf rogue in rbg over my worgen because travel time in stealth has more value there so I get to be more active on the map and some larger areas are good to kite or pursue objectives with the same bonus.
Personally I’ve always wanted them to do the opposite of what op has suggested and make a more bold statement about race by giving us all a level 1 talent tire which gives 3 talents that are granted by race to choose from, mostly because I imagine we’d end up with a few more interesting options that would be considered decent