Reduce world buff duration

hi ya. i think the world buff has too much weight in the raids. lets reduce it so it only lasts like 30min for some of the trash. it seems unfair for ppl that could not get it or lost it due to bad luck. it is esp. bad for dps sensitive ppl :slight_smile:

Worldbuffs bad for the game, impossible to balance with it, and its why warriors are left in the trash outside raids

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truer words have never been spoken.

No I like my idea better…reduce its power!! bring it down to -80% or -90%

its ridiculous that even the #1 warrior in the world, i saw his raid on twitch the other day, he died middle of raid once, then from there onwards instead of being #1 in meters, he went down to #17

I mean look, i understand a buff, but WB that bring you from #1 to #17 down, its just absurd, remove it all together or bring it down to -90%.

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I would love to see world buffs only work outside of raids like in SoM.

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AGREE with baconlegs…100%

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Agree, world buffs have always been a very toxic concept.

Its basically is what enforces parsing culture because you don’t want to take a weak player that wipes the Raid and loses you all your world buffs. World buffs are roughly a 20-30% damage increase. If a entire raid loses them, it can be a raids damage going from 50k dps to 30k dps and making the fights take x2 as long.

I remember when TBC classic came out, everyone celebrates the removal of World Buffs.

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Sure fights are easier and shorter with buffs, but they are not necessarily needed. If the first boss in ST takes 20-25 sec or 40-50sec, I’m sure we would survive that :slight_smile:

One can argue that people who don’t like wbfs can raid without them in a guild who shares the same mindset, the main issues is that those guilds arent exactly many.

Without world buffs players would turn to a more consumeable focused mindset in order to squeeze out their potential, this seems like a better deal in my eyes. The difference between a player fully worldbuffed player and a non buffed one is too big.

A wipe with just consumes doesn’t sting as much compared to ‘wait for next week’ in order to prep again with buffs.

Wipes with only consumes can give players a shot to parse more frequently within the same lockout.

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Unpopular opinion… just make WBs persist through death maybe?
And if not then tuning them down would make more sense than reducing duration.

Nobody cares about trash clearing so everybody would use the 30 min wbs for the first 3 bosses instead of trash clearing.

And tryhard parser groups would do like… use boon … kill boss. Put wbs back in the bag. Clear to next boss, start wbs, kill boss, log out 50 min to let cronoboon cd refresh, put wbs in bag clear to next boss, start wbs kill boss,log out 55 min, and so on. Pure struggle but some freaks will be willing to do this

fyi this whole thread was just to troll Xinhuan’s OG thread. but thanks for joining anyway.

this is exactly what would happen.
hope you guys are prepared to spend 5 hours in ST instead of 1.

Yes thats why reduction in power is much better…just make them a silly buffs thats all then nobody would bother even getting them & the field will be fair game throughout the raid…very simple

Yes it should be a minmaxing feature. And not a must have.

No world buffs is the reason i never even launched SoM.

They brought them back for SoD because they are good and fun.

u are right. i take it back.