Light is good.
Draenei, dwarves and humans who aren’t shadowy worshippers or similar and say otherwise need to be removed from existence.
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The Light is easy:
Don’t trust overgrown Chandaliers with personal agendas, have some common sense about how you use it and never force the Light on others for the purposes of conversion.
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No. You just made it lame.
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Personal agendas such as:
Sacrificing themselves to be drained by your people for their Light and eventually serving as means to restore your font of magic.
Creating a safe place for refugees and fighting demons and a tyrant who took over much of the world.
Saving your people from being turned into demons, spending millenia driving you around the universe while your former friends and family are trying to exterminate you.
Saving the soul of a man who was about to become a mindless undead beast.
Truly the most despicable beings in the universe that don´t care about people at all.
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I’d also like to find some being - god/godlike or otherwise who doesn’t have a personal agenda!
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I think the AU mag’har are excused.
Other than that, absolutely agree. Even the Void Elves know full well they’re practicing magic that not only can but wants to consume the cosmos if given the chance. The Light’s champions clearly aren’t infallible in their zeal, but at least they don’t want to undo reality itself.
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but what about camp taurajo
In the end, the “Light is just as bad as Void” thing is not really the problem, but rather a symptom of two other problems.
First is people putting modern morals and worldview into RP. They want to be enlightened atheists who powerfully argue against the religious sheeple and either make them see the truth (what that truth might be when Light is constantly portrayed as good and Void as bad, I don´t know) or will be seen as the good people persecuted by hateful religious bigots.
Second is the classic “IC Wowpedia reader” issue, where someone wants to be right and know everything, so they just quote the newest info from the game.
Both of these issues have one thing in common: They tend to represent lack of separation between IC and OOC. And, from my experience with people RPing enlightened atheists and Light haters, this is exactly the problem, with the people doing such RP being the troublemakers who will get angry when something happens to their character and will have zero self-reflection.
Which is also why races like Mag´har or Forsaken can hate the Light (and one could say even should), because they can get to that position without applying 2023 Earth logic or reading latest interview with Steve Danuser.
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I do not understand this post.
This is the larger offender I think, but even with the Wowpedia claim, very little that’s been shown in the game world supports the stance.
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Making Xe’ra a religious psycopath instead of a zenned out, baffingly and almost frustratingly optimistic philosopher do-gooder was so lazy.
“Oh no, the twist is Light Bad Actually!”
It’d be a twist if you could stick to coherent plot points and pre-established lore with some respect for consistency, but I realise that might be asking for Actual Miracles of ya’ll…
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Considering what Illidan allowed his followers to do on Outland, he deserved to get Light slapped into submission.
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Its weirder because they changed her entire character to make her the former in Argus whilst she had been the goody-two-shoes whilst we carried her about questing with us on the Broken Isles. The same Xe’ra who flashed us back to Illidan’s life to show us what he had been through and completely understood his choices then kind of just forgets all of this when Argus dropped.
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The void is good actually because it’s purple.
Purple is kind of cool.
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This pretty much seals the deal we love void now
I thought it was fine enough and a show that while Light is generally benevolent it can’t really work too well (unsurprisingly) with the likes of fel.
But then I never took the naaru as true embodiments of the Light so perhaps I put less stock in them than others.
The only real issue with this moment (to me) is that seemingly every RP character ever either was there in person or heard about it from a friend, despite it happening on a spaceship who knows how far from Azeroth
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Thanks.
Been saying it for years.
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The lore is in the trashcan, and all we can do is cobble together some coherency of it all in the end, indeed. I get peoples annoyances in it all, with blizzards constant reimagining and retconning every expac, but it is what it is.
what we have to work with are energies that are heavily weighed to their “spheres” and can be wielded with great effort, some easier than others, scarlets channel the light to torture victims, does not make the light a malevolent force, merely stating that it can be used in such a way, aswell as someone that is so pure hearted and willfull that even raised as somthing with a stain on their soul, A death knight, Sir Zeliek, can use it even if it brings him untold suffering.
as my earlier statement, everything hinges on the mortal realm, and it’s intermingling of all these Spheres to create something that is greater than the sum of it’s parts, built by all spheres in essence.
How can anyone argue with irrefutable proof such as this? It boggles the mind.
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It’s a jab at players’ willingness to vilify traditionally good-aligned factions and races over their desperate need for a moral equilibrium, no matter how absurd it may be, which is the topic of discussion.
Camp Taurajo has since Cataclysm become a meme that can endorse anything against the Alliance as a whole despite the attack on Camp Taurajo, which consisted of three tents and a totem pole, being a small, insignificant event in the grand scheme of the war yet it kept being brought up as this huge cardinal sin brought about on the people of the Horde by the Alliance both IC and OOC. No matter how evil your act was, it was sanctioned by the events around Camp Taurajo.
And that’s pretty funny.
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tbh in this same way theramore was some walls, 5 houses, a stable and a tower, and brennadam was 8 houses. MMO world scaling is always gonna be wonky and taking it at face value is usually an L
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Also didn’t the commander order the troops to let civilians go?