My focus here is not to complain about the nerf but rather to state my opinion and provide some constructive criticism regarding the melee Hunter spec.
First of all, I’ll state this: RS nerf is fair. It deals a stupid amount of damage right now. However, I think melee hunter deserves some love in return.
I have a few thoughts in mind:
- Our melee abilities scale badly with gear in comparison with other classes. Nerfing melee hunter now will make it even worse and worse as time goes on.
- Regarding PVE, our only role is dealing damage. (This is one argument which people do not like yet is true nonetheless.) I would love to be able to tank with hunter but since that is not an option, and considering hunter has very few utility (especially in melee range) then it seems fair to me that hunter would do more damage than most other classes. We can’t even use trap launcher as it takes the same slot as dual wield rune. What is the point of bringing a hunter if not for high damage then?
- Ranged is not a competitive option in PVE right now. It’s actually one of the worst specs in PVE.
Some additional concerns regarding melee hunter:
- Mongoose Bite no longer has a cooldown. Yet people still don’t use it. Why is that? Because it deals so little damage it’s basically a waste of mana. I would assume devs have plans for next phase regarding this ability, idk. I sure hope so.
- Melee hunter has a 2 button rotation right now. This is not particularly engaging if you ask me. Yes, dealing high numbers with RS is somewhat fun but that’s it. When nerf becomes live tomorrow and hunter starts falling behind other classes, there will be very little incentive to keep playing as melee.
- Carve is our only option for cleave damage and it takes the same rune slot as the BM rune, which is very sad imo. Most people don’t want to replace Carve with decent pet damage. I know I don’t.
- I like that we deal more damage by wielding two weapons of the same type. It’s flavorful and adds an extra incentive for players to pick certain weapons over others, which helps with making gear prioritization uneven for different classes.
With all that said, I have a few suggestions:
- Wielding weapons of the same type increases your attack speed by 15%. → probably not as good as +30% damage on RS but still a good incentive
- Mongoose Bite can now also reset the cooldown of Flanking Strike. This would help trigger FS more often which would increase the damage of RS. → this would be a good way to counterbalance the melee nerf in raid encounters without making it too strong in PVP
- Mana cost of Raptor Strike and Mongoose Bite reduced by 20%. → melee is very mana intensive right now.
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Even after nerf, sims show its only 9% dps lost on average for melee hunters in Gnomergan. You just won’t be able to 2 shot people in pvp anymore, you will need like 3 globals for that now
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Yes the simulations, we know, the hunter was massacred at P1 and everyone said that it was deserved, normal, that it would change nothing for the future, result as expected, the hunter having a rotten scalling, the MM spec is trashtier, trashtier among trashtiers, because of the nerfs of the P1 requested by crybabies.
So, the simulations, get them right.
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Hunter was never “massacred”. You were just bad and still is bad, that is why u cry on forums every day 
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I dont know why hunters are not out with the pitchforks trying to get MM buffed. Its the worst dps right now. Hybrid classes deals more damage ffs.
Crybabie incomming, git gud 
I went to logs to check ur performance, and must say, your green and gray parses from Phase 1 are embarassing to look at. No wonder you cry about hunters being bad, if you don’t know how to play it 
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please guys, keep it civil. that’s not the point of this discussion. thank you
I actually intend to discuss ranged hunter as well. But yeah, MM definitely needs buffs. They should be among the top DPS.
Dude for me Hunter is not that escalado. I would make others more op. Even a new runne as you have not AoE.
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My concern is not the dps alone but rather the whole design of melee hunter. It’s literally a 2 button rotation right now. I would like devs to show players their efforts on making the melee hunter a full fledged spec, which is not the case currently. Mongoose Bite is unusable, it deals no damage and is too heavy on mana. I don’t want to complain just now since we’re still in P2. But I think what they’ve done with it is not enough.
Sure, I care about the nerf but the gameplay is more important to me. And I certainly don’t think that hunters have been “massacred”.
Hybridtax is so 2K4… In SoD there is no valiable hybrid anymore so stop that ****., please.
Dude, in addition to being stupid, you’re a hell of a mythomaniac, I don’t do pve, I haven’t set foot in either BFD or Gnomeragan, ever.
So explain to me which parses you’re talking about huh?
Your life must be very miserable, I pity you.
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So you telling me a level 40 hunter named Sajuuk on logs is not you? 
You must be very famous since u have fans impersonating you
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I actually don’t care what you saw, I don’t do pve except for a few five men dungeons.
haha busted at being bad. no wonder you cry all the time
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‘Sajuuk’ on logs is from US server you midwit
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I dont think it was a ‘PVP’ nerf, hunters did top dps in PVE but we dont scale that much with gear(locks and mages do better than us with good gear). Melee hunter is kinda meh in pvp, you get kited and killed by casters all the time, in BGs you miss damage from DW rune becasue you need to use trap launcher.
I agree on the front of having to use two of the same weapons part being fun. It was very nice in terms of flavour and I feel like even if it feels like a restriction that we don’t like, it adds class uniqueness.
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So what if it is a US Server. U are telling me a EU player can not play on a US server? Or there happens to be another guy with a dog name like Sajuuk and he happens to be a hunter, all by coincidence ?