I don’t really care that much if they change to body type 1 and 2 if that pleases some people. I mean, how much time am I spending in the character customization anyway? New pronouns? Uhm sure, whatever as long as I don’t have to choose from ‘‘her’’ to ‘‘him’’ when I actually started as a male in the first place. So make a option somewhere in the UI if people would like to have it changed.
But voices? I dislike the idea if those changes are server wide. Imagine all the male nelfs, I mean sorry body type 1 nelfs running around with body type 2 laughter.
The thing I am trying to say is that I do support and respect the LGBT community I just don’t want it forced upon me, like religion. Will it harm if all these changes are for the user alone and meaning I will always *without any changes hear male voices on male characters?
If you are introducing something like this to the game then we are allowed to have discussions about it as long as its respectfully done. I am already seeing burning torches and pitchforks while I am typing this and that is making me mad.
Just a dicsussion, I would like to hear your thoughts. Keep it civil please.
They gave choice to insta change sex on barbershop. LGB has no problem with it. T people? I don’t know, aren’t they also use 2 genders? So this isn’t even LGBT problem. It’s the problem of those minority who call themselves non-binary. I didn’t even know that existed before year ago. I don’t care dude, if they really wanna please them just add 3rd option gender.
But you can’t take away male, female. And replacing M voice with F and vice versa is a clownery! If that happens I’m 100% sure they will lose millions of playerbase. Not only EU, USA but China, Russia and others won’t be pleased.
Excuse me, but there’s so much toxicity and ignorance here so I went to US forums and finally saw a normal post which sums my post even better:
Don’t tell us that you would support us (LGBTQ) when you write something like this.
Because the way you say that and what you say is exactly what makes us feel uncomfortable.
That’s not support you’re doing, so don’t tell yourself that.
If you want to support queer people, then stand up for them to feel represented, even in World of Warcraft.
Support is always something active. The only thing I know about you so far is that you are ACTIVELY against a change that pleases us queer people.
Whether you like it or not, out here in the real world, there are people who look like the generic image of a woman, but with a beard and a male voice - and they want to be exactly like that.
There are people out here who are non-binary, have a female voice but are otherwise masculine - and that’s exactly how they want to be.
So do what you claim, and support us by learning to accept that a male blood elf with a female voice is perfectly fine and a kind of representation!
WoW is published by NetEase in China who recently made fun on uncle Xi, comparing him to Winnie the Pooh on weibo. They really don’t care. However, there’s the question of whether NetEase will be allowed to publish Blizzard’s games in the next 3 years. So it’s unknown whether Dragonflight will even launch in China.
Russia is also under question as ActiBlizz does not sell their products there anymore. This is because that country’s Boss Baby leader decided to yeet the whole nation back into the bronze age, destroying all local industry, shutting it off from international trade and payment systems. The existence of WoW’s Russian client is under question. Why would Blizz localize the game for a market they can’t sell the game in?
I love how you find yourself on the side of two literal tyrants now. It’s really a self-report to praise these nations’ leadership. You’re like “yeah, they will imprison you if you make fun of them, but they are right in their politics”. Lmao.
Let’s put it like this. Lord of the rings is a great movie yeah? It’s a fantasy world which I like. How about we change all the voices and give like 50% of the females, male voices. And while we’re at it give Legolas boobs so that some people will be pleased by it.
You are missing my point and maybe u actually don’t care for all these changes to happen and that is fine.
When I said that I respect the community… you know what let’s change that because I respect all human beings in the real world yes. In a fantasy world like WoW I’ll rather not have every gender running around with voices of the different gender because that for ME (you also have to respect me for this opinion) is not really fantasy like.
It’s not necessary to put all the stuff that is happening in real life in the game. I mean why not change Stormwind and give it Ukranian flags so that we support Ukraine? If you don’t want Ukrainian flags in WoW, does that mean you don’t support them?
It is obvious that blizzard has jumped on the bandwagon. Transpeople existed before WoW but no one cared. If Blizzard had been honestly interested in considering everything and everyone, this support should have been available much earlier, when it was not yet popular. So we are left with a stale taste of “Gratismut” as we say here in Germany. It means you are committing yourself to something that can’t hurt you.
Agreeing on a singular thing does not equal being on the side of Tyrants, that’s a very bad take on what I said. Actually, its quite the woke take on what I said.
You either stand for the freedom of individuals and artists to express themselves or you don’t, mate. The reason why Russia and China oppose atypical gender expression is the tyranny - one of the BIG reasons is that atypical identities are a threat to tyranny, because its main way of spreading is through enforcing identities.
It is not a bad take at all. In fact, rejecting atypical identities is a necessity of tyranny and only leads to tyranny.
If you get confused that’s on you, mate. Go see a doctor. Most people can recognize male and female without needing a clear word for it. This is how nobody got confused while making their character in New World or Elden Ring. It’s also why people put symbols on toilets - because they are more useful than words, because they transcend all language barriers. Everyone simply knows what is female and what is male.
It’s not about confusion. The problem is that Blizzard is validating minority and atypical identities. The same conversation happened when they added the new customization to the humans. The same conversation happened when they made Pelagos trans and the 2 night warriors gay.
I only wish you all were honest. Your dishonesty is pathetic. It is a manifestation of your own awareness that your beliefs are not something that you should be believing. You’re embarrassed to be honest. Just follow Jordan Peterson’s advice - be honest about what you believe, and if you can’t be - then change your beliefs.
Honest question here.
What if we just changed the sexselection to “masculin” and “feminin”?
Body 1 and body 2 just seem cold and sterile.
Is the mas/fem a comprimise?