Well, seems my work here is done. False quotation, disingenuous presentation, out of context.
Glad we sorted that. Good discussion.
Did he rekt me hard? I am afraid to read his post
The title was a reference to people saying “relax, it’s just pre-patch” right now when everything is busted when in fact it makes sense to cry right now, in pre-patch, because on lvl 60 in SL everything stays busted (in terms of trinkets).
You chosing to ignore something doesn’t change that.
Who? Who is saying that?
Are you expecting me to post links to posts now or what?
I can already tell you what specs will be 100% nerfed:
*Meele:
-Sub
-Arms
-Unholy (maybe)
-WW (maybe)
-Ret (healing)
-Enh (healing - and will be garbage then)
-Prot (healing)
*Casters:
-Shadow
-Frost
-Affli
-Ele (maybe healing - not sure)
-Boomkin (maybe healing - not sure)
*Healers:
-R Shaman (Damage)
-Disc (Damage)

Are you expecting me to post links to posts now or what?
Well if I were more pettish I might. I mean, if it’s a quote it’s proper form to include the person you are quoting.
But I just posed the question to reinforce my point.
Allow me to illustrate it.
“Arena balance is the best it’s ever been. Shadowlands looks even better!”
“Jito’s forum posts are amazing, we should all read them with care.”
“Relax, it’s just pre-patch.”
These are quotes. That means people are saying it!
…No. No it doesn’t.
Sources matter. Contexts matter. Intents matter.
The OP wrote a quote without a source, linked an unrelated video, and posed a question referring to the quote, with a hidden intent to focus on the matter related to the video.
I’ve criticized that, because it’s all-together bad form.
laughes in DH
Relax guys, it’s just prepatch. The best is yet to come
Here i will deliver your food if noone else bothers.
And still u didnt realise its pre Patch stop crying.
Its pre patch mate… the game is not balanced around lvl 50, its being balanced around lvl 60. You should expect this from pre patch balance, its the same every pre patch.
Obviously Pre-Patch is a fiesta and it always has been. There’s no rewards though, so why the outrage?
Welcome to pre-patch
fiesta inc, they wont bother balancing any of this cause its pre-patch. when we’re 60 then they’ll look at it.
i am a sp main myself but who cares about prepatch balance. nobody. they should not invest any time in balancing prepatch. They should focus on beta balance .
Dude - it’s just a prepatch. Keep in mind that it’s all because of traits and essences. If Blizzard wanted to deliver fun PvP in prepatch they would remove them with Essences. It’s because they didn’t want to nerf Nyalotha too much… Why it’s so hard that Ele one shots because of Lava Shock that is gone in SL, Warrior won’t have Slam traits etc. Just chill and wait for SL season one. Stop playing this stupid prepatch or you get burned out and you will hate this game. Level up some alts or farm some transmog for more drip in SL.
I could add some extra more but i am at work atm.
Yes maybe not phrased literally as “just a pre-patch”, but context is there: it’s a pre-patch, don’t take is seriously, doesn’t matter what is balanced, sl is most important, at 60 we will shine etc, etc. Balance is not delivered even at 60 and 9 day from actual exp.
Why u interact with jito? And who summoned him
Dont break the rule du not summon the pvp god himself

Yes maybe not phrased literally as “just a pre-patch”, but context is there: it’s a pre-patch, don’t take is seriously, doesn’t matter what is balanced, sl is most important, at 60 we will shine etc, etc. Not delivered even at 60.
Yes.
That’s what I said.
This is what people refer to when they say “Relax it’s just pre-patch”.
They refer to the game experience during the pre-patch.
Obviously.
And as you say, then it doesn’t matter. Shadowlands is what matters.
But the OP has linked a video from the Beta. And a quote that says “Relax it’s just prepatch”.
The presentation is obviously that the quoted person has said that in response to the video.
But it’s not a real quote, it has no relevance or context to the Beta video, and therefore it is disingenuous to present a question as if people keep saying “relax it’s pre patch” when no one is saying that in the context the OP presents it.
There’s a difference between the context of the quote you’re presenting, which is how it’s always presented. And that’s awesome.
The OP presents the quote in the context of a Beta video by Venruki. But no one has ever said “relax it’s just pre-patch” in relation to that. Presenting it as if someone has, that’s disingenuous.
Nope just typing a load of crap. His posts are low IQ and TLDR, best that one spends their time reading meaningful posts.

His posts are low IQ and TLDR
That strikes me as a bit of an oxymoron.
Just a thought.

That strikes me as a bit of an oxymoron.
You might want to explain how what he said is self-contradicting.
But isn’t that what op is trying to say? That he have been saying that game was broken in pre-patch and got bashed for that because its a pre-patch and balance doesn’t matter. He was told that game balance was at 60 but when he took a look of beta balance aka 60 lvl he found it pretty unbalanced eventho not much is left before release. So now he is asking to ppl who said “game is revolved around 60 lvl and balance too, pre-patch doesn’t matter” to answer for their own words.
Relax Its Just beta.
Joke aside, this cr@p will go live and there are two thing we can do about it.
- Nothing.
- Like it.

You might want to explain how what he said is self-contradicting.
I said it struck me as an oxymoron, not that it was self-contradicting.
Dissonant words to describe my posts I would say, if I were to use another term than oxymoron. But self-contradicting? No. But oxymoron is not a synonym for self-contradiction, although both words describe each other well.

But isn’t that what op is trying to say? That he have been saying that game was broken in pre-patch and got bashed for that because its a pre-patch and balance doesn’t matter.
Where do you read all that?
Here’s the first post of the thread:
The title is a question saying: “Relax it’s just prepatch”.
The topic poses a question asking: Are you gonna keep on saying “relax it’s pre patch”?
The reference to the question and the title is a video by Venruki on the Beta server playing at level 60.
My criticism remains: Who keeps saying “Relax it’s just prepatch” when confronted with balance concerns on the Beta?
The OP is providing the quote and the question. Who is he quoting and who is he asking?
You’ve linked a lot of examples of people who have said “Relax it’s just pre-patch”. But all those examples were in regards to the pre-patch game experience, as you yourself pointed out.
No one seems to say it as an excuse for the concerns with Beta balance. So why does the OP present it as if that’s the case?
I said that was disingenuous, because no one have looked at the video made by Venruki and posted in a serious manner: “Relax it’s just prepatch”.
No one.
Now, as others have said, maybe the OP meant something else. And that’s fair enough. But then my point would be that people should write what they mean. Especially if you include quotes, as that implies factuality.
Some really weird people here with comprehension issues. I’d wager somewhere on the autistic spectrum.
Most of that quotes were picked up from ops other thread where he was saying that some things were very broken. Than as you can read ppl told him that it was a pre-patch which never ment to be balanced. Everything should have worked fine at 60, not on 50. He went and looked at beta and saw that even at 60 things weren’t balanced as those people claimed to be and here we are. At least that’s what i think op tried to say.