This community has really taken a turn for the worse. It’s starting to remind me of the early days of League of Legends. The sad part is, most people playing this old game are at least 30+. So we have allot of 30+ year-old “adults” being ridiculously toxic in a game where the rating doesn’t even matter. Blizzard could press a button and bump everyone’s rating by 300+, which they just did.
Honestly, people need to grow up. This game is supposed to be fun. Nothing you achieve in-game will ever have any real-life significance. Let’s keep things in perspective.
you are right, but keep in mind, that Blizzard also created a System, what is more punishable than some Expansions Ago
the mentality has changed after corona regardless of Blizz, but I have to agree with the others in one thing
the current System, with the High rating deflation is just not motivating the players just have fun when they see some kind of progress, which is not the case currently
Because of the way the game is at the moment, a lot of frustration is artificially created
They recently removed the MMR cap, which is why I mentioned that ratings don’t hold much value right now. While I understand why some players feel frustrated, it’s important to keep things in perspective—it’s just a game, and the ladder system isn’t the best. So, either play for fun or risk setting yourself up for a lot of unnecessary frustration.
As an ex League player, I don’t bother with anyone /mute all /mute self . If I am better then my enemies and teammates I will rank up if not I will be stucked. I keep my cool and focus on the game.
I’m really bored of the narrative that people are only allowed to have ‘fun’ in a way that doesn’t engender annoyance or ‘toxicity’, nor in any way that isn’t the way that THEY have fun.
For some people (like me), my fun is tied to winning rated games, hence why I queue rated content with a ranked ladder and rating to gain. In the limited time I have to play, I want to have as much ‘fun’ as I can. If I can’t, because of X Y Z, then I have the right to feel annoyed and I have the right to feel like I’m not having fun. It’s called competitiveness.
‘Why did you throw that game?!’
‘Chill bro have fun lol stop being toxic’
There is not only one way for players to have ‘fun’.
While I understand that people want to enjoy games differently, there’s a significant difference between competitive frustration and toxic behavior. It’s one thing to feel annoyed when things don’t go as planned, but that doesn’t justify lashing out at others. The reason toxicity is such a big issue in competitive gaming is that people let their frustration negatively impact everyone else’s experience.
Competing and trying to win is great, but when players cross into name-calling, berating, or blaming, that’s where the line is crossed. In a multiplayer setting, everyone’s experience matters—not just that of the most competitive players. Even in ranked games, there’s a way to express frustration without being toxic. If competitiveness leads to a consistently negative experience for others, maybe it’s worth reflecting on how that competitiveness is being expressed. It’s possible to strive for improvement without tearing others down in the process.
I can agree if it ventures over into IRL, non-game related things, but things purely focused on the game? Nah, not having it.
Why doesn’t it? Even the most ‘chilled’ people you can think of lash out at others, either directly or in their thoughts, it’s basic nature.
If I sit a 35 minute Blitz queue, the Rogue on my team loses his base and then he goes AFK, do I have the right to feel annoyed and say something?
At low rating, sure.
Only if it isn’t related to the game. You can NOT expect to queue rated content and then be immune from criticism and accountability. If you want it to be sunshine and rainbows, go and play unrated content, that’s what it’s there for.
Same community which reports people and gets them banned for having a ‘Skyfury up’ macro btw, this community is so sensitive everybody is too afraid to type a single thing.
People far too often blur the lines between ‘feedback’ and ‘toxicity’. If a Hunter player thinks it is toxic to tell them to put their pet on a flag so that they don’t lose a base in a Smoke Bomb, that is not toxic, it is basic common sense.
Do you know how many times I have given very fundamental, basic advice to people who have threw a game on my team because they don’t know the simplest things of their class, when I could have absolutely demolished them, just to be met with ‘Don’t care, didn’t ask’, and then either ignored/reported? Too many. Yeah, people like that ruin MY fun. I apologise for having standards, unacceptable for many WoW players apparently.
It’s also possible to strive for improvement whilst criticising and holding people accountable for their shortcomings, mistakes and failures. Works for me.
It does when you’ve been waiting 10-15min only to get grouped up with questionable players that waste your real world time. Also the clowns that flock to broken specs (BM) deserve to be degraded.
As long we have god tier healers and specs this game cannot be fun… because for they joy and false feeling about being good players, someone must suffer, and its just devastating gameplay experience, soul crushing one. Blizzard need to balance their game, otherwise its just caultron of hatred and disrespect… And why is this?
Because better do not win !
As expected, even in this thread, some people could benefit from keeping things in perspective. If a game brings nothing but frustration, it might be worth reconsidering if it’s worth playing—that kind of reaction can be a sign of unhealthy engagement or even a form of gaming addiction.
“early days of LoL”, buddy, have you tried playing LoL lately? Nothing has changed for better, if anything, it changed for worse. I played LoL during beta (which was available only for NA server), and during that time it was like place for saints.
Right now, even hardcore veteran players are either muting everyone or leaving the game because its community is just truly disgusting. And same as with WoW, most of those are old players, even if you see new account theres >90% chance that it’s a smurf (most likely because his main was banned).
And about toxicity, its a multiplayer game. Its a multiplayer game with rating system. Like, it would have to be a surreal world to not have toxicity in it. Name me a single multiplayer game with more than 500 players that is fully family friendly, I’ll wait. And don’t even start with “its not real life”, you become an alien when you start gaming or something? It’s part of your life, you like it or not, just like waking up, brushing your teeth. Depending on people personality, some might even be toxic during best friends match of tekken, or table tennis during vacation trip. And you are saying “grow up”, tbh Id rather see you grow up and ignore toxicity if you don’t like it. Thats what adultery means, stop wasting your time trying to change others and instead focus on yourself - hopefully at least this is not a lost cause from the very foundations of it.
Point proven. People like you can’t appreciate viewpoints that aren’t aligned with your own so as soon as someone is on the other end of the spectrum the conclusion is ‘it could be an unhealthy engagement or be a gaming addiction’.
People have fun winning and don’t have fun when they play with fools, it’s not hard to understand.
Again, this is the same community that gets people BANNED for having a ‘Skyfury up’ macro, and some people definitely DO think it is ‘toxic’ to be given constructive criticism, especially if they haven’t asked for it.
Lets agree to disagree. You think it’s alright to be “toxic” in the most commonly used sense, while I think you should act with at least some common decency even online in a rated game that has no real life impact.
did the same and ever since i went from stuck on 1850 this ssn to 2k in 1 night sesh