Having an full magic dispel on Immolation aura is absolutely broken…
If a DH gets fully Dotted by an SP, Ele, Boom or Lock and uses Vengeful retreat Immolation aura, Not only does he easily surive the backlash damage, he doesn’t receive the crowd control due to Glympse. outisde of that, if only 1 of the 4 magic dotters is present, DH can instantly counter every go without even using Glympse…
Next thing, you would say “remove the magic dispel from feign death for hunters”… wait … 
or remove Spell warden from dk … oh wait …
Can remove it, doesn’t matter too much. Ret paladin has the same spell btw. But Ret isn’t that great rn so people forgot that. Judgement self dispel can be nasty though.
Wouldn’t mind if both got removed.
I think the talent is a lot more problematic vs Destro warlocks, cause u really need Immolates up on people and those are actual casts with 0 backlash unlike Flame Shock
Agree - it was fine when Immolation Aura had reasonable cooldown. Now it’s a bit ridiculus.
Good job you can chain CC a DH to oblivion so you can pretty much cancel him out the game. Happened to me during my last solo shuffle, and my partners died because of the constant CC on me.
Maybe then you should bind your interrupt.
“Bind your interrupt”. Of course DHs interrupt range is huge, and you can interrupt when stunned, or rooted… -.-
Your spec is one of the most disruptive specs in the game. You can dodge things with Meta, Glimpse, Shadowmeld, by interrupting, stunning. You can even cage someone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrkKmrmCbsg&t=593s&ab_channel=SkillCappedWoWPvPGuides
This video seems to be 100% accurate in your case.
There’s also a thing called positioning yourself before CC.
Based on a slight side step you can decide if a Fear send you to Narnia or in your healer’s direction. Most melee players fall into the noob trap of getting CC-ed behind pillars at awful angles. Oftentimes, your healer can’t dispel you if you got CC-ed like that.
It’s a big quality of life improvement once you start paying attention to it. Still happens to me sometimes, but it’s less than before and feels good to get dispelled properly.
Now if your healer is a potato and never dispels you, that is a different kind of problem ^^
Not agree with u, ret dispelling 1 magic/poison/disease, not all like dh
But Ret has a lot more judgements ^^ much lower CD spell with divine toll procing even more
Both dispels are stupid and both became too frequent after reworks. Keep in mind that H Paladin also has this Judgment dispel. My friend asked me to help him win 2-3 games in 2s early season and I met a H Pala playing aoe dispel talent and Judgement dispel one. There is no chance I can do damage then. Now imagine RSS round with Disc with 2x dispel, Ret and Havoc against you. There is 0 chance you ever have a Flame Shock. These magic dispels are toxic. Anyway DH atm is so strong that even without the talent it’s going to be good.
Ye problem is more for Shadow priests. Spam dispelling Flame shocks actually makes u consistently take 100-150k backlash dispel dmg, which is equivallent to like 2 Lava bursts, and the guy reapplies it after 4 seconds anyway. Played a few games with it in 2s earlier and despite the self dispels my healer’s mana bar seemed to deplete faster with me self dispelling rather than just sitting with the flame shocks. So it’s sort of a bait in a way for the flame shocks.
It’s more of a problem vs Destro and SP
Yes?
I don’t see why not. Every spec deserves to be good. You have to go through quite a few specs before you reach DH on the complaint chart. Of course this depends on what rating you’re playing in as well.
I do understand people hate DH as a class and would love to see it be very weak and unplayable with low participation. But I could say the same for Demo warlock, which doesn’t allow you to play the game and perma kills you with NPCS. And BM hunter. Not “super overpowered specs”, but just annoying to face, just like DH. DK is also very annoying to play into, but just like DH, has its good deal of weaknesses.
Such specs aren’t comparable to literal abominations that make u play the game in a completely different way, like Rdruid and Sub rogue
That’s not true at all. Whole Ele 4 set is built around casting Lava Bursts to lower Primordial Wave CD. If you get dispelled it still hurts a lot. 100 k-150 k is nothing if 1 Lava Burst hits for 90 k.
It’s just dispels cost mana. That’s true. It’s especially bait for Haste/4 set discs.
This omega broken level of toxicity, imagine completely make a spec unplayable just by default.
I did some rbg recently to fill cap ad whenever you enter it and see hpal/monk/priest as sp I can’t play the game, all my dot hardcasted are Perma aoe dispel, and without mentioning dps such as dh/evoker/ret can also dispel it.
Actually insane how the game has evolve to an absolute joke for some spec, it has to change.
You can’t dodge instant attacks. You can’t dodge getting cced again during a stun. You can’t avoid being pushed away by a sham if he’s your target. There’s so many cc’s you can’t avoid, and you can’t use Glimpse all the time because it has, you know, a CD.
trust me, i played dh and ret, and i can feel difference with it, u not saving divine toll to dispell 1 ability in 5 secs, u need fast dispell like vs frost mage, or sp, its not same
Then imagine how much harder it is for many other meele specs without the tools you have. Yet somehow Havoc is the most represented spec in the top part of the ladder in every bracket. So I don’t believe it’s as hard as you present it. On top of it how many classes have spammable CC. I know 3. There is also a mechanic called DR. You’re on huge amount of copium. Havoc is extremely strong right now. Probably it has ever been in it’s existance. There is 0 reason to complain as Havoc DH player atm.
Only it isn’t.
The only melee DH definitely has better uptime than is Windwalker.
Outlaw rogue Ferarri at 150% move speed with hook and shadowstep literally crosses a map as if the guy has 6 fel rushes back to back and is on drugs. Warrior literally cannot be stopped from zugging people down due to immunities and more than good enough mobility. Sub rogue is just well… sub rogue. Feral doesn’t care because feral is like sub rogue and kills you in stuns anyway. And DK cripples you and is hard to kite in a different way.
Ret isn’t even a melee as it hits ppl from 20 yards with every single spell. Survival does ranged damage most of the time
Every melee has uptime in Dragonflight. The only true full time denier of all melees are Mages, they simply don’t care how much mobility you have as they will always have more.