Its really not funny if you play against stupid 1 shot stuff like this. Just remove it from the game.
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NO BLIZZ!! Keep it in the game!! I was tired of losing and deciced to roll a rogue!!
DO NOT NERF BEFORE I GET MY GLAD MOUNT!! This is truly my only way to get it!! Ima go do m+ farm all mythic gear with good stats and boost it to 220 ilvl and dagger them in the dark!
Please do not nerf!
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- line it
- git gud
- press def cds
- another option
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Nice, finally someone complaining about the correct thing when it comes to rogues. Usually I see people post videos of rogues one shotting using this build and just saying “Rogues are so broken, nerf” etc.
I totally agree, just remove this honor talent.
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how to fun as a rogue then?
Was thinking “I bet Thulonius plays a rogue”.
Checks. Yep. I was right. 
People that do those generic posts of “nerf evvveerrryything” usually don’t have much clue of what’s causing the one shots. Even when it’s being repeated in every thread.
Well we could go even further to nerf MA to really nonviability or also straight up remove it.
Would also gladly take a Soulform nerf.
As rogue main, I vouch for this. Kinda afraid theyre gonna nerf the wrong thing. Just remove dagger in the dark talent.
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I doubt this will happen until 9.1, it’s Blizzard after all…
And they have 2 options - leave it as it is and endure the cries of the community and the angry people leaving the game or nerf something else.
They are pretty capable of doing everything else but not what must be done, so yeah…it’s Blizzard after all…
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No, that is not their only options. They can just remove the honor talent for now… they do not have to give us anything in return. Then work on a new or reworked honor talent for 9.1. It is the easiest and best way of solving this.
The absolute worst scenario is if they nerf something else. they should not keep trying to balance the spec around broken mechanics/modifiers that should never exist in the first place. It will not solve the problem, and it will make the spec unplayable with a normal build, forcing all rogues to play around one shot speccs instead.
Not many rogues are using this build (I have not faced anyone yet, and I know most rogues do not want to play this build) so leaving it is better then nerfing something else tbh.
I’m not talking about giving anything in return. Absolutely think that rogues need nothing in return for taking away the 1 shot capabilities from them.
I’m talking about their balancing and changes process, which…I am not sure has ever, in recent xpacs, included talent changes mid patch. Hence, the options they have, given how they usually work.
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If we only speak of Dagger in the Dark nerf/remove, yes then Rogues dont need compensation.
For MA and Cloaked in Shadows Rogue would need compensation and in my opinion would be an even healthier way.
For a small fix that should happen Dagger in the Dark could do his damage not front line but as a Dot over the duration.
15k dot over 5 seconds would still be an immense damage, but you had time to react.
Would also certainly kill that build. Shadow Strike should also not have the 25% more damage from Stealth. The Teleport should be incentive enough.
We had a few every expansion but really only maybe 3 each expansion out of 100.
WW in 8.1 for example is what i remember.
In Legion we also had them for the Honor Talent System.
WoD was the Killing Spree nerf to be CC able.
These are just out of the top of my mind.
Thats just rogue in general tho …
In MoP and WoD the damage of Rogues was more spread out over the dance of 8 - 10 seconds and even feelt more fluid to play.
Now its packed in 4-6 seconds.
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I am not talking about compensation. They should just have some honor talents options like every other spec in the game. That can come in 9.1 or later.
If they wont change/remove the talent then the only option is to nerf that talent so it becomes useless or leave it as it is.
The thing is, they are gonna make changes to talents in 9.1 anyway, It’s kind of doubtful they will do anything to talents before that if it’s gonna be changed anyway. Not that it’s impossible, but rather improbable, so they would either leave it or just nerf something else, is a more probable scenario. But they may surprise us, who knows.
I personally think that sub needs a rework. Spec is capable of pulling a huge amount of cc, therefore you can’t give it a good dmg to kill you in it. In bfa sub was a cc bot with way less dmg it does now, but everyone who dedicated themselves to played on it still achieved high ranks. Now everyone rolled on sub in sl after pre-patch dmg numbers, but kyrian got nerfed and damage isn’t as high as it was on bfa assa, so people ask for damage buff, outside of that gimmicky oneshot.
dude just los it br0, kick the sap and stun the rogue in stealth, izi pizi lemon skvizi
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That entirely is not true.
Also for Sub Rogue google “The state of PvP (8.3)”.
The success of Sub Rogue was only due Corruption, Tentacle namely, and Drest Trinket.
Sub was in no way fine in Bfa. The last time it was fine was MoP and BfA.