This really needs to go, twice now I’ve been griefed and essentially locked out of doing a dungeon because groups of premade people are holding you hostage for doing the dungeon ‘their’ way.
About 10 minutes ago I went into a random Grim Batol dungeon. Normal.
The tank said that people should not mount any drakes or that they would be removed from the party. Seeing as one of the quests is literally to mount a drake to kill throggs I did so and just used my drake to kill the throggs, even made mention of so to the parte before I mounted a drake.
Didn’t prevent me from getting kicked without any form of communication.
Current state of LFG and you being at the mercy of random people that can kick you for any reason is absolutely abysmal.
I realize people want to do all packs for optimal XP farm, but kicking people for doing a quest in the dungeon is stupid and not in line with what was intended for the game.
The debuff itself has been part of the system almost since the Vote to Kick system was introduced. It became an unfortunate necessity as certain players would urge the group, by request or by being a nuisance, to vote them out in order to avoid receiving a deserter debuff.
If you have a better suggestion you may also fill it through the ingame suggestion box.
I believe the votekick system just has to stay in some fashion. The other option of not being able to get rid of anyone during any circumstance would create an even worse environment.
But yes, some people do everything in their power to abuse this. Just a few days ago I was also held hostage by a group of four, claiming I should be grateful for the boost (a full ICC geared alt in leveling dungeon content btw). They took every single piece of loot and only killed the bosses they found worthwhile. They also wanted to queue more afterwards, but I ditched them after one dungeon.
And today, I had a random tank claiming that he was such a magnificent player that he boosted the rest of us. He needed on every single piece of loot, I suppose in his mind as a reward for the “boost”. Luckily he seemed to be soloqueueing, because someone initiated a votekick that was successful. He was from my realm, so I put him on my ignore list.
In the current state of LFG you also have ppl queing random HCs hoping to get the HC they want for 1 boss and then leave or leave if they don’t get the said HC. If deserter gets removed you’ll have ppl abusing it by queing->AFK or troll->que again->repeat.
Removing the deserter for far-fecthed scenarios like the GB normal you mentioned is just bad call. period. I’m wondering if it’s even true since there is no reason for what the tank asked.
Also, it’s kinda strange to me that some ppl mention the vote kick problem since I haven’t get kicked on any of my 2 chars so far (both done with hc gearing and que for weekly VPs atm and 2nd char was lvled from 15 to 85 only with dung ques, so i’ve run a lot). Maybe it’s just coincidence and pure luck, i know, but then again i get in there, do my job, play my char without slacking or afking and get out. Mentioning that cause i happen to see a lot of ppl nowadays NOT doing that and kinda makes me wonder what changed from wotlk to cata. They just go afk without saying anything, if you wipe they stay dead waiting for others to run and res (which is kinda ok-ish but in some cases they don’t even accept res cause they are afk, again without saying anything), they do ZERO dmg (had ppl doing less dmg than my disc priest while lvling and i had ulduar gear!).
we found one of those that defends this stuff btw you have to mount of drakes and kill it . it’s faster than normally killing it and it’s mechanic of this dungeon so you are wrong and dude is kicked for no reason abusing lfg system
Just because 3 members of the group decide they dont want to play the dungeon as it’s designed doesn’t make it right to kick and lock out for 30 minutes the one who does it like that. Especially in such fashion that they just kick someone out without a word or warning because they’re following the dungeon’s mechanics.
What he experienced is straight up bully behavior by cold people who lack any empathy or morals. People who see other players as just objects to use for their own goal without any care for their time and feelings. If they can gain even 15 second benefit from ruining someone else’s evening they’ll do it as that other random person is completely worthless to them. Simply bad people.
Ok mr. “i call my rogue char Thug but ppl behavior makes me vomit”! (ye i know, not the best tittle)
Cya in rdf to kick me cause you don’t like my attitude i guess? (cause that’s not bulling ofc)
Btw you are in forums and more particular in a controversial thread. If you can’t handle opinions that are different or not close to yours then you better not get in. Cause you’ll read a lot of posts that will make you vomit, that’s the internet sweetheart. You probably ignored my post and focused on the words that you quoted cause you felt personally attacked/bullied. Forums and/or controversial threads are probably not for you.
Yes. Run the dungeon AND do quests. Quests are part of the game so IMO it’s a little ridiculous to kick someone for doing quests. No reason to bully anyone for not doing what you want. Everyone is expected to treat each other with respect. Simple as that.
And how do you respect the other 4 when you drag them for your quest while noone else need it? How do you respect their time when you force ppl you don’t know to do what YOU want? If someone is getting kicked cause he didn’t follow the others then it means at least 3 out of the other 4 simply do not want to do that path/quest/achiev or w/e. Simple maths.
I didnt answer them because I cant bother as you simply can’t understand basic decency as in not being able to minmax every dungeon. Sometimes there is one who hasn’t been there before and does the quests. It doesn’t take much time, but that is something you cannot comprehend. You value efficiency over everything, but quests are part of this game and dungeons. If no one needs quests then you dont do quests. If everyone agrees to skip a boss then you skip a boss. That’s not mandatory as you can kick everyone who needs quests out if you like, but that’s what a good person wouldn’t do.
By going with the flow. So do quests another time or either ask if it’s okay to be behind and do them anyways. It’s really not that difficult to communicate. No reason to bully in any situation.
I also disagree with the fast mentality and dropping questers in dungeons. Having to advise players to seek same-quest dungeoneers and form a special group for that in a MMO is quite an
