s2 shadowlands looks way more balanced at keys 25+ with resto shaman at 41% hpal 39% rdruid 7.4% priest 10% and monk 2.2%, right now priest is closest at almost 10% and the rest below 4%
Just look at DF s1 keys 25+ -
Shammy: 26.1%
Druid: 28.3%
Evoker: 21.2%
Paladin: 7.2%
Priest: 14.3%
Monk: 2.8%
They managed to do it decently balanced before, I don’t see why they can’t now.
And bringing the argument of DF seasons I dont know… Because mage priest aug for three seasons is acceptable or what?
When you look at 25 and up in DF s1 you look at the top ~1000 healers world wide. Right now there aren’t even 80 healers who have timed all 12’s worldwide.
While i do agree it was better in DF s1. But the current problem is blizzard failed the balance different types of dispells in the current dungeonpool.
Historically there has always been 1 OP class. And historically there has always been people like you whining to get it nerfed. And it eventually got nerfed… Only to be replaced by another OP class.
What makes you think that your moronic suggestions will achieve anything different ? You come here to complain about shamans only to complain tomorrow about RDruids…
In all seriousness. If you want real feedback on real solutions, what you need is to normalize raid buffs.
You play monk. You have a +5% physical damage buff right ? Turns out DH has +3% (former +5%) magic damage buff. Well… normalize it. Give both monks and DH a +3% DAMAGE buff.
And mages give intellect right ? And warriors AP right ? Well turn that into +3% main stat. DONE.
THAT is what would solve the issue. Now, and in the future. Moronic suggestions asking for nerfs will not.
There is nothing to imagine it is numbers. I never said the difference is small, tho. So idk whats the point of your post.
The best keys pushed that season where 31 tho. So of course representation is gonna loook better, especially if we consider this season is kinda unique.
You are on the forum too much. I see you whining on all post people say sham are too op or other healer are not enough. Its fact stop trying to counter fact you exhausting yourself
You obviously did not read the posts I wrote about that. Because I refuse to perpetuate this “always 1 OP healer” cycle.
And you obviously did not read the posts I wrote in DF complaining about HPala and RDruid and MW monks being OP and monopolizing the healer meta as well.
And I never asked for nerfs to those specs (Except for Exodia comp, which was too OP). What I did ask is the same I keep asking now : To put some order in healer mechanics and raid buffs.
Also. For the record. If you can actually track all my posts it implies that you spend as much time here as me. Dont forget.
I mean, it was better in DF s1. It was probably, after the druid and evoker nerf and dungeon nerfs (like Nokhud elemental boss), healer wise the best balanced season ever. This was page 1 of the healers back then;
True I mostly read 1 line and move on. When I disagree.
Doesnt change anything, there are nothing to protect shaman from, they are dumbly OP or others are dumply not OP enough. I dont care about n°1 guy. I care about the 10 th shaman has more rating than any other healers (random but probably true(
You’re clearly pushing cutting edge kind keys so play the class that facilitates that the easiest. If you don’t want to then stick to keys where you get a look in.
Life isn’t fair, the community is mean - boohoo.
They can remove the mastery buff from shamans but then they’ll do something unexpected like tweak druids and then druids will be the best and you’ll still be crying.
How is THIS not true ? And how can you disagree with an empirical, data driven observation… There is nothing to disagree here. Its factually true.
And if you stop and think, the ONLY conclusion is the following :
Literally this…
And second :
In what way exactly ? Give me details because I can see the following :
HPS wise, HPala and Pvoker and Dpriest heal for more HPS than shaman.
The utility that makes us so OP right now, we ALSO had it in DF when we had 3% representation and was the best HPS healer out there…
So what changed exactly ? Did shamans change ? NO. We are basically the same thing we were in DF. With 1 extra Def and 1 extra raid buff. Thats IT.
What changed is the dungeon pools. That are literally built for Shamans. THAT is what changed.
And once you realize that, you see that nerfing shaman wont acheive anything. You can nerf us all you want. But you STILL need curse and poison dispells for example.
THEREFORE… change the dispell mechanics ! YISH ! Its a way to buff other specs…