Remove mastery buff from resto shaman

Community General Discussion
1

and maybe one other type of healer can play the game, thx

(why he has dispel curse, broken poison dispel, mastery + windfury buff, blood lust and monk he has revival 3 min cd and 5% phys dmg debuff??)

2

Mastery buff ain’t the one lil bro.

Shamans are desirable for a bunch of reasons, I think you may be on to that though as you’re aware of the poison totem.

If you remove the mastery buff, then you’ll have the same comp -2% mastery (If we assume by your own “solution” they keep windfury.

1 Like
3

Thanks for your opinion it is very valued here. Of course remove windfury too, they are broken as it is why should they have raid buff on top of it?
If you remove the raid buff they will still be strongest but at least other healers are comparable if you bring a dps shaman in the group for the utility in the dungeons that has 100 poison debuffs or curses, even if everyone thinks they need resto shammy in every dungeon at this hour, it “solves” the situation slightly as you would put it.

4

We must eat the shamans to steal their power.

1 Like
5

Different healers different utility. Monk has disease and poison dispell build in in the normal 8 second cooldown dispel (detox), shaman only has curse. Monk has better survivability tools, including a tank external. Healing cooldowns are also way lower than the shamans which makes monks way more flexible.

1 Like
6

Yeah give monks windfury and 2% mastery buff and I won’t complain, but you must realize they have to do something to balance it out, its 80% shamans in keys 12+ just go check the group finder, most keys with out shaman healer are keys listed by the healer, of course they can’t balance it completely but 80% in favor of one spec when there are 7 healing specs is not so well done

1 Like
7

I do not give a damn about professional level. Ellesmere the best holy paladin in the world has a combination of 11 and 12. Megasett is on a full board 11’s. Not sure why we should look at not even 0.5% of the playerbase and then claim something is OP. Sorry, 0.1%. The cutt off for title is 2772 score at the moment. That is a combination of 11 and 12 timed. And you only want to look at 12 and higher.

Monk has 5% physical bonus. Now find a group that benefits from those bonusses like last season(s) we had the demon hunter with 5% magic.

8

Honestly, Shamans have been so neglected it’s fair to let the class shine for a moment.
I do think they’re a little overtuned yes, but so many healers have been in the past, there’s always a class that shines more, it’s restos time.

Shaman has been irrelevant for expansions and expansions.
Plus, it’s extremely fun, not just for the data. Imo, they’re in the best place they’ve EVER been, altogether on all specs actually.

9

Well, we should look there because the specializations performing the best are likely to reach the highest key levels and be able to complete them, do you understand? Shaman is outperforming the other healers, I’m trying to que to 12’s and every person has this perception that they have to invite a shaman and I don’t blame them, considering the balancing, they simply bring too many things compared to other healers, bl, decurse, short cd range kick, psn totem, stun totem etc and on top of that a raid buff, just remove the raid buff and they are still as good, still feel the same but they are not miles better than every other healer very easy “solution”.

10

We really should not look at the top 0.05%. Professionals try to make groupcompositions that are 0.01% better than any other and play 24/7.

I neve forget shadowlands season 2 where holy paladin was meta big time and then there was that team with a prot paladin and a resto shaman (thaner) and frost mage and did ‘out of nothing’ the highest keys. But everyone wanted the meta nerfed because it was supposed to be OP. Then other professionals prove with a different group composition it was doable too.

Honestly, it now looks like every healer has timed at least +13 since this reset :slight_smile:

11

Resto shamans where “persona’s non gratas” in previous m+ seasons and nobody(with the exception of shaman mains) batted an eye.
Shamans have their spotlight finally and people go “omgEz shamens tuu stroonk. FEX! NARF!”

And this is coming from a non-shaman player :smiley:

12

This week do you even do any m+ without shaman ? Yes you can but do you ? Me I dont so yeah shaman is an issue

13

I think the affix is an issue.

14

No we should not because at the top edge the result, are more often then not, polarizing.

BfA Season 2/3 70% druid on keys 20 and up.
Season 4 best keys 32-30, closed only by pala and druids.

SL s1, 90% pala on keys 25 and up.
S2 only pala and shaman in the last 2 key level.
S3 62% Priest 23% sham on top keys.
S4 80% Priest

DF season 2 only paladins on top keys
DF season 3 only druids on top keys
DF season 4 90% druid on 20 and up

1 Like
15

Why cant I have an small angel dispelling all magics/disease in the group for 30 sec with 40 sec cd as priest ? I mean, I know why but why do they have one ? :clown_face:

16

But rn we dont talk about +15 keys and n°1 we talk about 12s. And it is supposed to be more accessible than it is for others healers doenst it ?

17

We right now talk about the top 0.05%.
In absolute numbers the top ~50-75 healers worldwide.

18

Wow we lived the year where people cry about one shaman spec is too op.

19

You’ve done over 50 keys on that char this season. Impressive since I thought “only shamans could play the game”

You’ve also done a bunch more on a pally healer.

20

No because it is still early in the season. Top keys is 14 right now. So 12 is literally 2 level below the best and with fort, tyr and guile.

As gear and nerf come people will go higher you will see more spec getting there but right now 12 are a huge wall.