Remove premades already

Oh no I’m Cubitus pet and he forgot to walk me around again

Wait. Could a country be communist without dictatorships, seclusion, etc? xD

Well, not in many, in all.

The idea that communism is inherently authoritarian is misleading because it only developed these things after capitalism tried to crush it.
In 1918-20, 14 capitalists nations invaded USSR to overthrow the communists with the years of the civil war intensifying the Bolchevik’s siege mentality.

The same pattern of imperialist/capitalist countries invading to protect capital can be seen in other countries that tried to move beyond capitalism :

  • Spartacist Uprising in Germany who was suppressed by SuccDems backed by Fascits para-military in 1919
  • Catalonia crushed by fascists in the Spanish Civil War in 1939
  • Cuba in 1961, invaded by American-backed forces which led to decades of terrorism from the US
  • Chile in 1973
  • Nicaragua in 1986
  • Vietnam War
  • Korean War

Capitalism will stop at nothing, going as far as supporting fascism if it means stopping communism from threatening the flow of capital.

The reality is that revolutionary countries are not going to be allowed to develop a socialism that’s unhindered.
Instead, what we see is socialism with authoritarian measures being adopted to fight back the onslaught of the West.
The totalitarianism of communism is not a natural development but an unnatural one caused by the constant barrage of capitalist terrorism.

TL;DR: If communism is bad and weak when it fails to defend itself, but it’s also bad and authoritarian when it does defend itself, then when would communism ever not be depicted to be villainous ?
The answer is never, because no matter what communists states do, it’s always spun to be bad.
This is not an argument, it’s a dogma.

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maybe capitalism its not the panacea but for sure comunism its a cancer
and this is pvp batelground forum :slight_smile:

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As i said :

Delenis asked for it, I delivered.

Capitalism’s need for ever-growing markets and infinite ressources has depleted our planet and brings us ever closer to environmental catastrophe. So yeah capitalism is definitely not the panacea.

Can we talk about the political and economic state of the world right now ?

You said it: Fascists, not capitalist (If you think that fascism has something to do with capitalism, you should know that it arose as an alternative to it). And Catalonia wasn’t another country, was spanish territory.

Well, in these countries communism tried to impose itself in a revolutionary and violent way (Well, as alway).

Wait, are you saying that the USSR did not pollute and that it took care of the environment?

Among the many evils it caused, is the environmental damage greater than that of the capitalist countries

What about china? the most polluting country in the world, (Which by the way, has communist heritage)

“Capitalism will stop at nothing, going as far as supporting fascism if it means stopping communism from threatening the flow of capital.”
Read mate. It’s good for you. Read what i wrote again. You probably didn’t get it.

The CCP co-exists with private capitalists and entreprenneurs with public and collective enterprises. It’s not perfect.

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Well, and URSS gave support to the NAZ*S, or did you think that Hitler started his military industry from scratch?

The USSR was crucial to the secret rearmament of Germany before the start of the Second World War.

I can assure you that the capitalist countries did not support Franco’s uprising at any time during the war xD

It’s a mentality issue more than anything when it comes to premades, some people just want to get their daily wins and move on with their lives. Other people put effort into premades in rated over and over for reasons debateable. Power rush to always be on the winning team? Thirsting for negative attention or suffers from poor selfesteem and cant take a loss?

It kinda comes down to the angle you view the problem from.

Everyone doesnt have a lot of friends they can play with on a daily basis so accusing someone of being “friendless” for not being in premades is a very childish and toxic argument.

I however fail to see the satisfaction and fun in deliberatly punishing the random bg brackets just because you can and because it makes you feel powerful. Flip the coin and view again.

Then again i never managed to grasp the satisfaction of sadism and deliberate toxicity.

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From 1939 to 1941, until Hitler decided to invade USSR. Kinda changed the balance a little. Also under Staline who wasn’t the best guy.

How funny. They supported them until they turned against them. Does that change the fact that communist countries did exactly the same or worse than what you criticize about capitalism?

Or are you going to tell me that the support of the rearmament of Germany by the USSR was for charity?

There are more suitable places for this kind of discussion, no offense.

He asked for it, I delivered !
Brrrr ratatata.

Do you have another example ? I brought you like 7.
7>1 how is it the same ? How is it WORSE ?
Do you want to start a head count ?

Also, why are you defending capitalism so much ? What did communism do to you ? How wealthy are you lol.

Some invalids ones, like the example of Spain, korea, Vietnam…

Let’s not forget that communism is the system that has caused the most human deaths in the world, even above national socialism, even among other communists whom the revolution ended up devouring xD

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How is that invalid ? Did the Catalonia Offensive never happened ?

When clever people looked at actual archival evidence released from the Soviet Union, they found that death counts were actually much lower than what was previously estimated.
The paper “Victims of the Soviet Penal System in the Pre-War Years” found that many of the previous estimates of historian were based on “guesses, rumors and extrapolations from isolated local observations”.
The death count of communism which includes the best boy Stalin, tend to be overblown and exaggerated.

Let’s ignore the milions of death under capitalism from poverty, hunger, exposure and imperialist war xD
We have more than enough ressources to give food, water and treat curable diseases for everyone in the world.
It’s Capitalism that refuses to provide these things because they aren’t profitable.

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Could you tell me where capitalism supported there? xD

I thought that in communism people don’t die of hunger, war, poverty, etc.

Just by reading the history of Russia or China, it is not necessary to go to many more countries…

I think that seeing the difference between the two Koreas would be enough to realize that Communism is a failed invention.

I can tell where they didn’t xD After the Munich Agreement, we didn’t hear so much from them xD Franco was very happy xD

What does that have to do with the offensive against Catalonia?

It’s part of the spanish civil war
You capitalist scum !