Literally. you absolute gut the livin sht out of ST (that was already quite weak) but still lets primal wrath build stay viable. Literally no one likes it, no one likes playing against it, and no one likes playing it either. you remove half of the feral toolkit just to make this abomination of a ability a thing. this cleave m+ sht is basically only thing thats viable tbh, and its boring af. Fix it… no one likes it. and these nerfs are a joke…u guys have to being doing crack at this point.
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Again, just play Moonfire, Sudden Ambush, Taste for Blood and Bloodtalons again instead of Lion’s Strength and Feral has decent bites with good bleed damage. Only Rake got hit hard.
The unfortunate truth is that feral gameplay atm is very unrewarding for anything else than pure dmg. The spec had good offhealing which could help your teammate in problems survive, or go for peels with clones. Going for clone setups on offense doesn’t pay off because of the passive rele effect on trinkets and weak single target consitent and burst dmg. The way the spec performs best now, and still will after 10.0.5 is to keep the same M+ spec. Dmg is king. Sad because I believe there is so much more to do in pvp than just pure dmg, at least for real hybrids.
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I would love to see feral gameplay like in wotlk/cata, that was the most fun for me ever.
if u play this instead of dumb cleave build u will literally do 1/4 of the dmg…seems great to me
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no? you can literally still play primal wrath and double clawed rake, the only difference is that your spread pressure is worse (which is unchangeable anyway by the playerbase) and your bite damage is a lot better
Well the problem is that this aoe abomination sht is not fun. they remove more than half of our toolkit for this sht. and aoe will always be better now since primal wrath. they nerfed the ST so any ST bleed / bite build will always be worse than just primal spam.
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remove feral and remove feral druid i agree
Great changes i approve of blizzards decision hit the nail on the head.
zelestial 1,800 past expansions now 2,5 must be skill improvements right xDDD or just solo playing the best specc in the game by far
Bro ur on a fkn alt to afraid to show ur main. go back to kindergarden u dog Xd
Easy fix here would lower primal applied dots have pvp multiplier of 1 → 0.2 or whatever the value is and revert the ST nerfs. Then give it a week or two and see if it needs additional tuning.
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Enjoy playing against primal spam. Literally no one has complained about ST damage. everyone complains about primal spam and i couldnt agree more. no one likes it… and these changes do not rly change the fact that primal spam will still be best viable build.
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Why dont you have fun buddy? Even if we would be ST focused we wouldnt get Incap Roar or easier Clones back. Only difference is that you Primal Wrath more often than Rip’ing. 
ST damage should be the standard in the arena. Possible AoE capabilities should be a bonus your class has like UHDK diseases or warrior bladestorm bleeds, but never the main source of damage. Never go full AoE.
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I cant have fun in pvp with m+ build. I dont think thats how the game should be played. literally just incarn primal spam and damage race. its not rewarding gameplay as a feral druid. And they removed whole toolkit for this sht.
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Im still voting for Incap Roar to be in the middle of the guardian part of the Druid Class Tree so that we can have 3 CCs again. 
I want strong bleeds and a fun toolkit. Not m+ aoe spam. this whole exp just makes arena a damage race where everyone uses 90% of their cds first 10 seconds. and that goes for literally all meta classes rn.
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You said only reason you got 2400 currently is because you was having fun the other day LOOOL which one is it.
you cant play the other build anyway so its a good thing feral has been made simple for you go smash some shuffles bro.
I never said that at all. i grinded my way up and learned how to play (against alot of ferals aswell) And what type of degenerate are you to assume i want to play a fkn M+ build? If that was the case i wouldnt have made this thread to begin with. Hahaha u are on a fkn alt to afraid to show ur main. absolute dog XDDDD. And for your facts. ive played feral since mop. i love playing druid even when its been fkn trash. Go reroll u fotm donkey XD