Remove racials in arenas and battlegrounds

The PVP scene in classic is completely destroyed by the fact that alliance have superior racials in pvp.

Will to survive allows for an extra trinket, which makes human mandatory for every half serious pvp’er, who aims to compete.

The scene has gotten so bad the there were

  • 6 hordes in the top 200 2v2 in EU in season 9
  • 2 hordes in the top 200 3v3 in EU in season 9
  • 1 RBG team in the top 200 RBG in season 9, and this is a team that only play horde to boost, while primarily playing alliance
  • all random battlegrounds are dominated by alliance with pvp gear. Horde is usually a mess of random newly dinged dps with no pvp gear, so the horde just get rolled

The state of PVP is pittyful for horde, and it could be fixed by simply removing racial abilities in arenas and battlegrounds

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it was the other way around in vanilla and tbc, didnt bother the horde players back then

If you mean gladiator and rank1 by “half serious pvper” youre right, but pretending to need the best racials for anything below gladi is cope

There are plenty of ways to improve PvP, none of them will be even considered by blizzard

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Wait, Undead’s removing fear?
Orc’s getting free attack damage?
Troll’s getting free attack speed?
Tauren’s AOE stun?
How are those not good PVP racials?

Classic-tbc Horde had the better racials, and now they are complaining that’s not the case anymore? guess all the “what do you mean bro? I play Undead because i like the lore” aren’t true at all.

Two wrongs doesn’t make a right.

Just because something was imbalanced in the past doesn’t mean why should ignore imbalance now. PvP have never been more imbalanced than it is today.

A derived reaction to gladiators etc. going alliance is everyone who wants to be one also going alliance. This means that in bgs, alliance tend to be much better geared because the average alliance pvp more than the average horde. This creates a huge imbalance.

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These are not even close to competiting with a racial that enables a ‘3rd’ trinket. And the problem i’m seeking to adress ain’t the strenght of racials, but the effect that it has on the community.

Only after Horde racials would be disabled in PvE.

I’d happily accept that trade.

they will fix it in legion classic, just wait

You have the implication wrong. It’s not that alliance players are good in PvP. It’s more like the good PvP players play alliance because it’s simply better to have extra trinket …

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I can’t really comment on Arena or Rated BG’s all I know that Every Man For Himself is not as good as people think it is how can you benefit from the effect of an extra trinket if you are Crowd controlled for its duration or part of it?

In terms of Random Battlegrounds there are a number of things going on here, firstly there are premade groups. Usually consisting of 3-5 players from Firemaw and secondly in that group they will have a geared healer which makes a huge difference you won’t even recognise unless you are a healer in a premade group stomping pugs. Also I tend to find alliance have more healers in random BG’s in general then Horde which again makes a huge difference.

People are rolling alliance as they are aesthetically more pleasing then Horde not because of one racial, and given how society today is so obsessed with image and status its not surprising everyone plays Human female. Also don’t forgot Horde have good racials too.

Do you even understand how that racial works? It allows you to have a second trinket aka a second proc that massively outweights any other dps racial horde has.

Nobody cares about random bg, horde are a clueless bunch of noobs in there anyway.

No? How is a dwarf/gnome more “aesthetically more pleasing” than a troll/orc? 99% of classic players are boomers that do not care about skins, we are not fortnite players, we care about performance and a racial that allows you to roll 3 trinkets will always be better than anything else, that’s why people roll alliance, nothing to do with how chars looks.

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fight me nerd

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