Remove racials in PVP

The races i like to play most are undead and bloodelf.
Those racials used to be atleast decent now they are as good as useless in pvp.
Arcane torrent used to give energy for rogues, Will of the forsaken used to be valueable and did not share cd with trinket. Touch of the grave used to actually deal damage and heal a bit.

Touch of the grave is just a joke now… deals and heals like 18k if it procs and its 0.3% of my damage.

i feel like i have to play another race in pvp.
and soon there will also be dractyr…
they say they would increase the CD but even bieng able to use those racials once is gamebreaking compared to other races.

there is zero balance in racials in pvp so why have it ?<
it makes everybody play nightelf, dark iron dwarf and too a lesser extent orc if you really want to be horde.

it creates a faction imbalance because all the best players go Alliance (nightelf) because its META. So horde get slaughtered in BG’s and in warmode.

If you dont try to Balance racials even a little bit for PVP just remove them from it already…

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Let’s not forget the old human racial working as medalion

Bro can you stop pretending as if racials are the one thing holding you back.

Lol you shouldn’t

Lmfao ait you’re tweaking, pce

I’m not against removing racials, but undead is still great and blood elf used to be completely busted, not just “decent”

Are you pushing for a 0.1% title? Because if not then it doesn’t matter what race you play. Even then it doesn’t make as big of a difference as you think.

Well undead is very situational. BE used to be busted indeed because it was energy +a short silence now its again very situational.

Atm im playing an undead affliction lock and when i see Nightelf, Void elf, Dark iron dwarf or even highmountain tauren racials i just think to myself that its so much better and usefull everywhere and that just feels bad.

it’s not like i need to play the best race its just that it’s not even close.
Old racials compared to the new ones just need an update except for nightelf ofcs.
with dractyr coming i mean…
As an affliction warlock that always gets trained and is immobile…
a dracthyr warlock gets to fly and knockback melee and maybe heal allies for 2% of their hp every 2 secs.
i get cannibalize (useless in arena’s) 1% reduces shadow damage (useless most of the time) and Will of the forsaken i barely need to get rid of sleeps or fears because im always the target.

Chill out, they are a nice tiny addition to the game and bring some “diversity” in choices, strats etc. and where they only truly have some impact is the top 0.1% of the playerbase i.e r1/awc teams.

Yeah it was GLORIOUS :DD
EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF (ofc we know why the name was changed LOL :man_facepalming:)
Those were the days man…

Its so mid now with the relentless gone :frowning:

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Racials in PVP should be PVP talent , nothing more than that. Even an orc should be able to use meld if he wants. But wait , Blizz can’t sell their race change think if they do that. Every exp they have to make you change your main chars race :slight_smile:

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I wish it brought diversity but the racials are not even close too eachother and most people are nightelf. Not realy diverse

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Every man for himself: Removes all loss of control and movement impairing effects. Shares cooldown with similar effects.
Cooldown : 2 mins.
Glorious days. However why did the change the name??

You aren’t in a position to tell others how to play. If he wants to play more serious than you he is allowed to.

It’s the devs problem that night elf is played by 30-40% of pvpers because its significantly better. Same way as gnome is for warrior. If you wanna be competitive and push r1s etc. you are kinda forced to play specific races and thats a problem on the dev’s side.

It’s not as big of a deal as bad class balancing, but its still an issue that would make pvp be better if fixed.

As a cow druid I have a hatred for shadowmeld being nelf only.

You would not belive the difference it makes before you tried not having it. Even at lower ratings its huge lol.

There are 2 and only 2 possibilities and both 100% go down to Politics…

Yeah i know… :man_facepalming:

Where do you see me telling this guy he shouldn’t play x race? If he wants to be a nelf by all means go ahead I couldn’t care less.

It’s exactly what Drae said, it won’t be a significant difference. I play whatever race I want. The only time I got annoyed about racials was in legion with the Blood elf silence.

In a perfect world they would just balance it. Give races a PVP racial that is unique and decent. disable shadowmeld in PVP and give it a replacement so horde druids and rogue are not in a massive disadvantage.
But i doubt they would actually care enough about PVP to do that.
I can see them changing shadowmeld if enough ppl complain or just disable racials in PVP because it’s an easy fix.
Class fantasy in PVP would be nice but yea…

Disagree on the druid part, tauren stomp>clone is still a thing and its strong unless i missed something

I agree shadowmeld is too strong
80% pvp rogues are night elf

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I’d go as far as saying 90% of rogues, but then again. Even if you’re not a rogue, forcing a cast to cancel is kinda meta AF in any lobby with a caster.

Just do a tuning pass for racials once per expansion. Can’t be that hard.

I like racials and every race should have a strong on-use racial like Shadowmeld, Fireblood etc.

I think people would be okay with Shadowmeld if they had a strong racial themselves and weren’t forced to play NE.

100 % AGREE I ALSO PLAY THE SAME RACES AS YOU…
Dracthyr will break pvp

or … hear me out:
we can remove the lizzard that nobody likes yet will be forced to play it bc of the meta.

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