Whatever you say 
Of course you donât know what to answer. Predictable.
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I told you we join in groups of 5 players. There is nothing that prohibit entering several groups of 5 in the same BG. If you think there is, I encourage you to find the line and expose it.
And what unfair advantage is given?
Using third-party programs to automate any facet of the game, exploiting bugs, or engaging in any activity that grants an unfair advantage is considered cheating.
Itâs not exploiting bugs, itâs not automating anything through a third party, nor does it give anyone an unfair advantage.
I donât know if you are not understanding what I write or if you pretend to not understand. I want to believe itâs the second option.
I have already answered to all that in a clear and exhaustive way. Scroll up and read again what i wrote.
None of you two has still answered to my question in a proper way. You can go ahead till the end of times with your nonsensical justifications, point is that there is no official option allowed by Blizzard that allows players to queue as a unique 20 man group. Hence, you are exploiting the queue system to queue as a unique group divided in multiple 5 man group because the system DOESNâT ALLOW to queue as a larger group. I mean, more clear than thisâŚ
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So for you being all on discord while having someone giving instructions about every step to take in the bg and even target calling versus a group of random is not an unfair advantage for you. Well ok.
As for the addon the has been banned by Blizzard, it should be OQueue if I remember correctly the name. Do some reasearch.
Indeed, if you noticed I pointed out the âunfair advantageâ partâŚ
Then report us and end of story.
You say that because you know that nothing is gonna happen and itâs the same reason why you continue to exploit the queue system.
Anyway guys, we donât share the same point of view. We can discuss about this till tomorrow but we wonât reach a conclusive point. So, as you always say Delenis âwhatever you sayâ. Cya all.
Nothing is gonna happens because we are not exploiting. If this was an exploit we would be banned long ago.
You are hopeless really hahahah ok hasta luego delenis!
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Thereâs in-game voice chat, so thatâs not an argument. Not everyone uses Discord either, you can arrange premades 100% in-game without using any external software 
I do my research, and I showed you that thereâs no mention of that addon in the banned addon (versions) list that I linked, which is extracted directly from the client: https://wow.tools/dbc/?dbc=bannedaddons&build=9.2.5.44127#page=1&search=OQueue
So, do your own research before making such claims.
This. Lots of of people actually enjoy premades, otherwise there wouldnât be thousands of players in communities. People only dislike premades if they fight against them, not with them
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The in-game voice chat you say. Ok, join an epic bg and ask them to join the in-game voice chat and then tell me the result.
And tell me, without vocal communication how are they gonna synchronize the moment they are gonna queue or when the queue proc? In case, I can tell you in game (not here because of rules) a couple of twitch links that show exactly how premades for epic bgs work, but Iâm sure you already know this, right?
If you noticed, I wrote âif I remember correctly the nameâ. The addon existed since a couple of friends of mine were using it to farm honorable kills for The Bloodthirsty title through premades. Maybe someone with a better memory can give you the proper name.
Donât you say. No doubt that lots of people enjoy premades in epic bgs. Point is that when the fun of some disrupts other players experience, there we have an issue.
Maybe you should try to play another game xD
This game was alway about geared people stomping pugs, or, masses of pugs interfering with people looking for results.
The game design allows it, and this expansion more than others.
Well no, I love this game and play it since the end of TBC.
But here the point is not geared people stomping pugs, unless you are telling me that epic bg premades choose geared people. If this is the case, you pointed out that epic bg premades are made mostly by undergeared players trying to gear up. Am I missing something Delenis?
The game design is not about that, pvp should be about skill and not gear. Thought you knew this already since you pvp, but prolly playing through premades only changed your pov about it.
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Im not saying these premades are composed by full geared people, there is alway alot of 50k that enter for fast honour gain. Read the line again:
Premades should be the least of your problems. The gear imbalance is the true problem, but if I have to choose between playing with pugs, or playing with fully geared players and win, my decision is more than clear. Anyway these epic premades are more about strategy than gear, and i also prefer an organized group to headless chickens. But if i can choose to play with Geared and organized team like Soth premade, I will do because im not here for wasting my time with pug and people that have no clue about how to play.
PvP should be about skill, but actually gear > all. And when two organized premades meet, the most equipped has the chance to win. So its a game desingâs problem.
Just do what i did, stop playing bgs and play solo shuffle, no premades and better gains 
I know right? Itâs really annoying, which is exactly why people use Discord for voice chat, because itâs a much better tool. Or do you want to block Discord in PvE raiding as well?
Pretty easy actually. It takes less than an hour to write a weak aura that sends your queue pop time to everyone in a community through whispers in addon chat. If not that, you can still manually type something in a channel. Voice chat is just convenience, not mandatory.
Okay well, go through the page I linked you and see if you can find it, because I donât see it. Iâve already checked 
Randoms joining ebgs with low ilvl and not following objectives is also disruptive of my fun, yet not bannable either. âdisprupting funâ is highly subjective, because with that same argument you should be banning highly organized rated battleground groups as well.
When you have 20 geared people in 4 groups, not queuing as a pre-made, but just constantly queuing up, youâll still have most of those, if not all, end up in the same match and stomp undergeared players. Theyâll still be coordinated, and they will still organize with a leader in the match.
If people are joining EBGs to gear up, thatâs a them problem, not a me problem. I play EBGs to farm honor and kills while having a good time. If I queue solo, Iâll still be killing undergeared players who stand no chance.
Premades and organization are part of skill, so why are you salty about that?
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THIS!!!
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