Remove the reward from joining a random bg 😡

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Hello, hi.

The casual pvp scene has been in a dissaray for years and nothing has been done about it except for sweeping it under a rug as most people could not possibly care less for casual pvp or pvp in general.

It is understabdable that Blizzard just isn’t capable of coming up with a new bg concept and they can’t make any changes at all so they will every now and then give us a New variant of wsg/ab or change an existing bg to resemble ab more (see deepwind gorge).

This has made bgs feel even more abstract, with the most noticable difference between playing for example wsg or twin peaks being just the environmemt.

So with a moderate selection of battlegrounds out of which most feel the same, it really is hard to care. So yes intelligent reader, you may ask yourself, “well why not just have a system that just throws you into a random battleground and call it a day?”.

Well that is a good question, and Blizzard definitely agrees with that logic, thus showing just how much the devs lean towards pve, just as the majority of the playerbase.

I’m not asking for a drastic overhaul of the whole system, but instead I just want to point out two things.

Random battleground system is utterly stupid, not the randomness, but the fact that it is encouraged whereas queing for a soecific battleground is not, and joining a battleground where you have no control over what you want to play is just bad. You want a specific battleground? Okay que for specific,but no extra honor and no conquest for you. You want to avoid ashran? No,no,no we can’t have that.

I think everyone has their battleground preferences, so why shouldnt they be able to always play in accordance with their preferences and be rewarded for it?

There is a very simple solution and it even existed once in the game.

DAILY BATTLEGROUNDS.

Simply select a random battleground for a day and give a Quest to complete it instead of relying on a Random bg. As for specific queing, add the same rewards as the Random bg, such as actual conquest points.

Keep the Random que function but don’t reward it in any additional way. It should definitely increase the pvp activity by giving People more control over what they play and it won’t make People regret joining que and sitting there for 5-10 min only to end up in a game they dont want to play as everyone has a battleground which they dislike COUGH TRASHRAN* COUGH* :face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

TLDR: Replace the current random battleground system with daily battleground, so players arent incentivized to play Random bgs and instead have more control over what they play. Yes, I know you are probably a pve player and you care more for the thing behind your fridge than wow pvp, and you are probably doing the right thing by thinking that way, but I have an opinion too, please respect.

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Well i would do for the marks.
Free bonus rolls needed dude.
Tbh wow pvp casual scene is so bad.
Its all oriented around end game content and mostly over tryhard content such as mythic raiding.

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Yes.

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I don’t have any problems with random BG’s. Variety is the spice of life and all that.

Pvp has many problems, this doesn’t feel like one of them to me.

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it would really help your cause if you checked the attitude at the door… and maybe left out some assumptions bro

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You’ve played all of those bgs, and for players who go with the variety is the spice of life motto, they still May chose it.

However its too spicy for me, especially when getting a bg which i dislike more often, not to mention not seeing some bgs in months due to the Random nature.

But i will say you are probably ok with it as you just join for a daily bg, maybe 2 , and you are content with that. Sorry for prejudistic approach but I am calling it.

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Lets compare your honorable kill count to mine to see if your wildly inaccurate assumption holds up.

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:rage::rage::rage:

My assumptions are well based, people just dont care, even People that join a Random bg,two minutes after bg start ask themselves “why am i Here” and just leave.

And I’m not your bro.

Fine, so you played some serious bgs back in the day, but my points still stand.

I’ll just decide if I should mark you either as an anomaly or as someone who played too many of each bg that theyre at a point where they can’t care which bg they get even if they tried.

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People aren’t playing random BG’s because there is simply no incentive that actually provides character progression, participation has been decreasing significantly since they implemented scaling/template systems and removed PvP Vendors.

this is probably what makes up a large portion of the reason why people don’t care anymore, other than that classes aren’t fun to play either so “just for fun” aint working.

only ppl who take bg’s seriously are cosmetic andys or people who think honor level tells anything about player skill.

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Everything you Said is valid,and it’s here to stay since they just don’t have a fix for it, but on top of all this rng, making a ganemode you get to play also random, it’s just not even trying.

Consider this. Shadowlands brings back pvp vendor. Should we really have to go through all that randomness to buy things from him?
For pve you can gear in mythic,raids and even torghast (and pvp wellfare gear) . Why not give us an option to get those bg vendor goodies by queing as tank and carrying flags or just playing a preffered pvp mode.

Also

Cosmetic andy?

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I mean they announced that they are going to bring back Conquest as a currency and vendors to buy gear in the next expansion, they didn’t say anything about honor gear/currency but that’s probably included.

once we have vendors back the only major thing that’s different from when BG’s were flourishing is ilvl scaling and that’s what I’m worried about since they haven’t said if that’s still there next expansion.

people who are caring about cosmetics a bit too much / not so much about other parts of the game (mostly gameplay related)

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How about… no.

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cutie :kissing_heart:

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I must say, I hated Ashran during WoD, but I like the new Ashran.
I must finally be losing my marbles.
(It’s especially fun if you play it as a Marksman Hunter)

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I agree in that I think many people have their preferences. But wasn’t random bg implemented partly because it wasn’t effective with the max amount of bg’s you could queue to being like 2 or 3? And some had like half an hour or more wait time.

They could though change the “random” to a “daily bg reward” because I agree that now if you want to play let’s say only wsg, you loose reward which isn’t “fair” either.

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It is, you get insane damage, its the wet dream for anyone who likes those big numbers.

On the other hand it’s rather pointless for any meele class. But do you often kill the boss?

In my cases it always comes down to kills, i never saw the boss die, even if one side stomps the other.

Also how about yes, are you really certain that there isnt a bg,a pvp mode that you just prefer?

Tricia Tanaka is dead.

Wow I can’t believe i remembered that.

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I actually que specifically after my first daily wins often, sometimes don’t even bother with one random win either.

Ashran or Isle of conquest

I like epic bgs and PvP, in any other epic bg both sides just avoid eachother and PvE for fast as possible win, is why I que specific.

Also because any reward pvp offers currently is not providing incentive - I’d rather just pvp than farm conquest/honor/chests/marks, I play for fun, I not a fan of hoarding virtual item currency.

I find it more of a pity that epic bgs like Alterac are basically PvE rushes with barely any variety to them.

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Then the solution can be much, much, simpler; reintroduce the blacklist.

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I miss it every day :sob:

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This^
Please.