Remove TradeSkillerMaster

Tms completely ruined wow economy, it made the AH a mess, letting grinders sell whatever they want and whenever they want, cutting you out or pushing you to unprofitability

Making so, Tms also ruined professions, a big part of wow immersion for some(many?) players.

Some add-on should be banned and deleted forever. They compromise the game for many in the interest of the few.

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No

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No, Blizzard killed Professions, not TSM.
TSM has been around for as long as I can remember. In fact it’s been an add-on for longer than I’ve been playing WoW.

It’s just delusional to think TSM killed professions and not the WoW token + Blizzards consistent attitude to make professions less important.

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You either adapt with the times or get left behind. I personally don’t use tsm and have no trouble selling stuff. Currently sitting on comfy 2mil. It’s not like you have to pay for it or anything. It’s free and anyone can use it.

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Default AH UI has been almost unusable without addons for a very long time. I still remember those hundreds of ore or herbs posted in stacks of 1 and waiting 5 minutes for the AH scan to finish so I can just buy some materials.

Addons like Auctionator or TSM were pretty much required in order to use the AH in any way. Not even to make any money, even to buy essential stuff. Now it’s not that much of a problem, they finally improved that god-awful UI in BFA.

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Or you know, they could rework this ancient abomination they call ā€œAuction houseā€?
I’ve seen better auction houses even in small indie mmo’s

I remember one mmo allowed players to even make stalls while being offline to which other players could come and check what they are selling.

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Never used TSM, sounds a bit too complicated to bother with unless you really want to ā€˜play’ the AH but I can’t say I’ve ever really had an issue selling stuff on the AH :man_shrugging: it certainly isn’t a thing that makes life in wow difficult for me and I tend to sell a lot of mats that I have no use for.

If you are finding that it’s having that much of an affect on your wow experience stop for a second and ask yourself why? What are you trying to do on the AH that someone else using TSM is stopping you? Are you trying to sell your items at the highest possible price to bloat your gold reserves? If that is so, well isn’t that exactly what the TSM users are doing?

/Agreed
Since the UI improvements I have removed my auction addons.

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Can TSM let you check your auctions while offline?

Did you miss that part?

I don’t know if you can check your auctions whilst offline with TSM because I’ve never used the add-on…

why would they want to when TSM does it already? Let them get the game balanced and playable first, then let them sort out the minor stuff.

Blizzard used to allow you to check AH through their own app, but since then the only way you can check it is online.

TSM only make AH more user-friendly, it’s still garbage when compared to other games I’ve played

The game is over a decade old, what kind of balance and playable are you talking about?
Also trading is core aspect in any mmo in my opinion, yet it’s almost completely killed due to trade channel boost spam and AH spam by bots. If that’s minor to you, then what’s major? Fixing bugged battle pet?

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Just as well we aren’t talking about other games then eh?

If you’re happy with the state of the game at the moment, then I am happy for you, but all you need to do is look at the complaints on these forums to see that things can be done better. As for trade being a core aspect, take a look at the trade channel. Yet another thing that can be done before wasting time on the AH when the addon does it perfectly well as it is.

We are not talking about other games because you are saying so? What kind of logic is that? When you look how to improve something, you look at other products first on how things could be done better.

Yea, I’m very happy about the current state of the game /s
Anyway this is pointless, it’s well known Blizorg doesn’t listen to feedback anyway
But thanks for participating in this discussion with you excellent ideas

Loosely translated to: ā€œI have no argument to answer you with because you are in fact correct but I don’t want to admit that and look bad on the forumsā€

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Funny, I never had trouble selling against all those TSM users while using Auctionator whenever I decided to sell stuff on raid nights or weekends… :astonished:

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LOOSely tRAnslATED TO: ā€œi HaVE no ArguMeNT To AnSWEr you WitH bECauSe yoU ARe in FAcT CoRRECT buT I dOn’T WANT tO adMit tHaT AND lOoK BAd ON thE forumsā€

Clever come back :laughing:

Don’t worry though, I understand that losing face on the internet can be tough. We are here for you regardless and think no less of you or your manliness :tiger:

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The way the AH currently works discourages price undercutting. Latest listings sell first.

Your problem is that currently there’s literally zero demand for professions - everyone has their leggos, so gear professions are dead, and raiding is kinda dead these days, so alchemy and consumable selling is dead too. The game is in hibernation mode, where everyone is preparing alts and taking things slow. Even gladiators are deranking to under 1000 just to get easy wins, they don’t care about keeping their gladiator rating anymore.

TSM is not a problem. In it WAS a problem before the new AH came around. Now it’s perfectly fine.

Yea, sure dude, everything is about losing or winning, grow up