Respectable parses and yet never picked... goodbye

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Hi,

Long time MM hunter and M+ lover here (since Legion).

Currently 630ilvl, 2850io, 99 overall dmg parses, and 67th MM hunter world dmg wise for the 11/12 keyrange (not too hard when no one is playing the spec to be fair tho…)
Check my parses on Warcraft logs if you want.
(The “highest DPS” values shown there actually do not reflect reality, this is a known issue, I’m/everyone’s way over those numbers IG, personally I’m over 2M overall in NW and SV with “Light Ammo”, and pretty much always above 1.5/6M overall anywhere else, and this without Aug or Priest’s PI, with those DPS is obviously higher)

And yet, to my greatest despair, I’m never picked in some +12s…
Those I havent timed yet: SV, GB, COT and NW, the hardest ones basically…
Don’t be fooled by Warcraft logs, I got recorded DPS for some of the mentioned dungeons in +12 but they weren’t timed…
On the other hand, I’m almost insta picked in the other dungeons, which are easier and therefore already timed by most, which means ppl with 2k8io like me are done with those, making me the highest io signing up into those dungeons in most cases, which explains why I’m picked in those.

It’s been going on for a while but this weekend I wanted to give it my all/really commit and spend the whole weekend signing into +12 groups (for the dungeons I need) and see what happens…
And, despite multiple 5/6 hours-long sessions fully spent signing up into groups (while watching movies and else), I havent been picked a single time for any of the dungeons I need/havent timed yet… I’m not even joking…

I even thought I had an issue with the PGF addon at some point (which a friend and I tested and disproved).

I’ve even learnt engineering to have leverage in COT, to no avail…

Over the last 3 weeks or so, I’ve applied to teams and joined M+ communities IG and on Discord, re-done the +12s I already had timed to try to impress ppl and hopefully get into their group/team/friendlist, but no one wants a MM hunter… “too squishy” “too low dps” etc etc

“Push your own key” I’ve been told, and I’ve tried, but as a solo-queuer it’s hard and so I’d get to +12 (or even +13) and then deplete… over and over again.

I’d have never imagined it could have gone worse than in DF (S4), where I had to give up after being stuck at 3k2io because I wasn’t being picked anymore due to being “too squishy”, and this was with 35% versa unbuff and playing with the god damn Ward of Faceless Ire in some instances!
But at least we had consistent competitive DPS back then… (mainly thanks to the insane “Neltharion’s call to dominance” trinket)
(the funny bit is that I then played my SP instead and despite not performing as well as with my hunt I was always picked… which really shows that ppl would rather blindly follow/trust the meta than actual numbers)

Now, not only we are still squishy but we underperform (to say the least) DPS wise (in most of dungeons at least, in NW/SV “Light Ammo” make us viable)…

Ppl that don’t already know might rightfully ask: “you keep going on about “Light Ammo” being so strong and making you DPS more, why don’t you use it in all dungeons then?”
Well, it’s only benefitial in dungeons where consistent pulls of at least 7/8 mobs (with decent HP) can be made.
If not, then “Light Ammo” is not worth, worse, you would then lose DPS having it over Hydra’s Bite for example…

Anyways, sorry for the long read, and I hate being a cry-baby like this but I don’t know what to do anymore…
And since there is no other class/spec I like to play (except SP but it’s also down the drain atm…) I think that’s it for me… I’m done.

Thankfully PoE2 is around the corner!

GL to you all.

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I feel you bro.

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Literally in the exact spot as you. Feel free to check my M+ logs on every season since Legion. Furfurh @ TarrenMill.

Never have the gap between classes been this big, and with the key squish you now got a zillion players fighting over spots on way less keys in the finder than previously expansions.

Mained MM hunter since Legion and never had issues getting into keys in previous expansions/seasons even though it rarely been considered a top class in M+ yet alone a meta class (again, feel free to inspect my logs) - since I could back my class up with logs (as you). And now what I find to be the biggest issue; with the squish, you have lesser experienced players (let’s say people who did 15) in the same key range as those who did 20-25.

And it shows. On how they (don’t) use interrupts, CC, defensives etc etc. I’m a Hunter and I’m forced into the same groups/keys as melee’s that has up to 70% less interrupts than me overall for example. Fun times.

The squish made those in the mid-range/liiiiitlle above average, like you and me, the biggest losers.

Both this Warrior and my Hunter is stuck at the 11-12 keys range even though I know my skill level is above that. And at that key range, class shouldn’t (and doesn’t) even matter.

Started playing WoW in Legion, and played every season and this is the first time I don’t feel motivated to even login. Doubt I’ll even continue playing in Season 2 if they don’t do some drastic changes. Even then, I dunno. The maps just sucks in War Within but that’s a personal preference ofc.

Also beyond frustrated. And the fact that Blizzard hasn’t even adressed all the issues despite tons and tons upon complaints, negative feedback. Just take a look at what even the top players, streamers, content creators, youtubers says about the current state. Just read around the forum. People are not happy, and Blizzard SHOULD be concerned.

(Again, my Hunter is Furfurh @ TarrenMill in case you wanna see my experience).

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