Healing surge is fine, the problem is that they never need to cast it to begin with.
Riptide is currently too strong and looks like this is an unintended bug. Combined with earth shield, they are just healing for free while not casting any spells to lose mana.
While they already have a kit that makes them playable by itself, the numbers on passive healing effects need to be Drastically reduced and move them back to casting heals and surviving through totems, shapeshift etc. They’ve gained a bigger damage oomph this season too, making them very strong overall - but not to a point of fairness. Colloquially put, they are broken.
If you’re not making a shaman cast, then you’re not doing any damage. I’m constantly using healing surge in PvP, and if I don’t… people die… fast. Riptide is certainly not even remotely enough to keep players alive on it’s own, even with earth shield.
If you want to complain about spec who don’t need to cast, lets talk about Disc Priest and Restoration Druid.
Edit: Omg so many typos.
So I’ve looked at your main you’re playing, and you’re a Holy Paladin. So are you complaining on behalf of your DPS friends? Get better ones I recommend.
I guess it’s the new class design, deal with it. Without a good HoT and a strong single target healing rshams would have no place in modern WoW.
Rsham aoe tools like Chain Heal and Rain just don’t fit M+ and Chain Heal isn’t even that good for raiding being too slow. So they had to give something in return.
I don’t think rsham is broken. Probly people expect it to explode in 2 gcds like a rdruid and are upset when it doesn’t happen.
The tankiest healer is still priest in all specs.
Wtf? So having abilities that output bigger numbers than other classes is a l2p issue? What do you do if you can’t dispell riptide every 6 sec or earth shield’s instant casts?
And again these are their top healing outputs. the numbers don’t lie. It’s also an issue with mana sustainability, which is the point of moving some healing into casting spells which would drain them in a proper timeframe.
If you want to complain about spec who don’t need to cast, lets talk about Disc Priest and Restoration Druid.
I’m not complaining for personal reasons, it’s just that generally speaking rshaman is overtuned. And if these posts expedites the nerfs just a day sooner, I will be glad.
It’s not the Riptide Hot it’s the initial heal which is strong. Reason for this is the possibility to buff it by using Unleash Life and Swirling currents conduit beforehand to get a strong riptide cast. But guess what? The reason, why resto shaman was behind in healing in BFA, was the bad instant heals compared to other healers. The sad truth is that hard casted heals suck in a meta where burst dmg means everything and I guess Blizzard knows this.
When melee classes hit for 30-40% of your hp in 1 swing… or boomy Starsurge for 14k atleast… trying to cast a healing spell and get kicked is NOT the way to go.
Better have some strong instants.
Might be wrong about this, but isn’t Renewing Mists the only instant monk heal?
Technically there are spells that become instant while channeling Soothing, but that is a cast, that can be dealt with like regular casting can.
I always thought that’s just generally a more popular class. Paladins vs restos and I feel like there are more good players sticking with pala than there are shaman players. I doubt anyone would reroll to holy right now to gain some kind of an advantage. It would be easier rerolling into rsham.
It’s not Shaman being op it’s other healers besides H Pala and Disc are too weak. R Druid is heavily countered by Thoughtsteal, Kleptomania and heavy burst because Druid loves slower pace. Holy Priest lacks damage reduction CDs and it heals through everything so it goes oom quidkly. Discs with Radiance legendary have an insane output but go oom if they just have to heal. Disc overall is very agressive and offers a lot of offensive potential. H Pala on the other hand has the most CDs and doesn’t really need to cast that much to be honest. With Kyrian and Holy Shock absorb legendary it’s even better than Shaman at the moment. MW Monk just doesn’t fit meta. With Arms Kyrian Covenant spell, Rogues, Ferals, WW and Hunters being still good it just doesn’t work. Every full stun means fighting for live.
I’d say current healers tier list is:
S tier: H Pala (cds and output), Disc Priest (extra offensive utility and output), Shaman (utility, output and the best mana wise)
A tier: R Druid (some popular specs counter him hard but it’s insane in 2s)
B tier: H Priest (needs a lot of gear and good conduits to be truely viable and even then is worse than disc)
C tier: MW Monk (doesn’t fit meta at all)
ugh what? are we playing the same game? ES heals for 800ish, riptide intial is 2k-something, riptide HoT is 300ish. Who heals through ret and sub cds with those numbers? Yeah if you have no cds up and youre just following the shaman around pressing your slam and frostbolt buttons, hes going to heal through them without casting. Just like a disc with his pw:s or a paladin with his holy shock. You dont pressure healers without cds, thats how its been for years upon years. Just earlier today I was 100%-10%'d in 2 gcds by a ret, linked back to 90%, and died in 2.4 seconds from full as soon as link ended, to a druid channeling HALF a convoke. You know what ES and riptide did to save me from either of those? they added about 1.5k hp to my total health, which bought me about 0.1 sec longer.