Restoration druids fundamental issues in arena in S1 TWW

Greetings,

A brief introduction to share my feedback: I’m an arena enjoyer and a small content creator on youtube(a hobby for me). I’ve been playing rdruid in arena since legion s1, and I’ve never quit since. I got multiple gladiators/legend in SL, DF and now in TWW, except I had to reroll another class for the first time to obtain it this patch. I’m 3.1k exp in shuffle as rdruid.

There are some fundamental issues that makes resto druid worse than any other healer for 3vs3 arena, and for shuffles at the highest rating as of right now. I don’t see this being addressed with s2 PTR so far, so I want to share my feedback:

1-Resto druid is THE squishiest healer in the game. Bear form is a cosmetic spell without prehots on yourself. It’s not even good if you pre bear form a stun set up. We die through.

2- rdruid hots in TWW heal for nothing. You’re forced to press 4-5 globals to hot before any healing occurs, which means you’re very exposed to swaps. It used to be that rejuv+lifebloom would heal by itself quite a bit, it’s not the case anymore. Burst healing comes from Soul of the forest after swiftmend.

3- the throughput, even with full hots, is mediocre. People die through full hots all the time. We have the 2nd weakest throughput in damp.

4- the point 3. FORCES us to play aggressive and in 20 yard range to get clones on DPS/healer to mitigate damage and open up win conditions before damp. This, in turn, puts us in a really bad position in which it’s easy to get swapped to (playing close to clone): this amplifies the problem of point 1.

5- As if that wasn’t enough, reactive resin is not healing nearly enough. It heals for 0.5 - 2% of my total healing in games where I’m getting spam purged into. We just auto lose into any team who purges on CD, as we just go oom fast trying to keep up. If I compare this to aff lock, where dispelling UA does 2 mil+ dmg it’s not even in the same universe (1 purge is approx 50k healing total)

In shuffle, you can get away with playing aggro most of the time, playing to win with clone. The higher you go on the ladder, the less you can push for clones, as higher players coordinate themselves for rdruid swaps better.

In 3s? Forget about it. I’m permanently a target xd I die in a cheapshot.

I’m not offering solutions, these problems go beyond number tuning for pure throughput, so I thought it’d be useful if the devs were made aware of these issues.

Sincerely yours,

Aurelioris

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We had several “Reworks” and only one of them did anything and that was this Minitreant thing,and that was surely a decent rework because of the Tierset Bonus it had with Nourish doing splithealing.

I had high Hopes for the last Rework with the new Talents but it ended up being already “Prenerfed” with the launch. If the Talent “song of the forest flow” (excuse me if its not the english name for it) would have been that Tierset Nourish Splithealing, it might have been better than this Freecast=Mininourish which requires you at the same time to waste another Talentpoint into having a higher Chance into proccing freecast.

Overall i dodge any rated Content and just play Bgs till this has been fixed,but its understandable if Shuffle and Arenaenjoyers are fed up.
Peeking at the PTR Build is kinda already forshadowing another “unplayable” Season.

What bothers me most probably is that its not entirely a pvp issue either,had some Semi Progress costumers as an alchy Crafter in Df and they too complained how weak rdruid is in raiding.

Tdlr: treants nourish splithealing good > Freecast Regrowth proccing nourish bad :smiley:

They know. They just don’t care. They pre nerfed resto druid in 11.0.5 to avoid it from becoming viable. It seems like they just want to have their 1-3 fotm healers every season and that’s it

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Yeah thought id give rdruid a try this season instead of pres/shaman and man, im soon done with this joke. Almost 250 games played and im pending between 1900-2.1 :sweat_smile: (which I know is low and should be free, but never touched this spec)

I have had several games where i had tripple lifebloom, rejuv, germ, cenarion and people still flopped.

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ALL op said is 100% truth

Will comment reactive resin, i think they need to change it to have 50% chance to ressist purge after 3 consecutive purges are spamed

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I had at some point all hots + ironbark and still died. I have not touched druid since :d

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As Resto Druid you are at mercy of your mates if your mates…
If they not rotate defensives its pretty much automatic lose…

Depend on the situation but if the enemy team pop their go on you, ofc bark + hots won’t make you invincible.

It’s true for every spec, let’s say you are a dk, enemy team pop their go you use ibf, ofc you die cause you need more. Especially since the game is very bursty.

Nothing to see on EU, only salt :joy:

If monk solo can burst down my teammate when all my hots are rolling + ironbark + when I seen its not enough my dps hp was going down still, when around 40-30% Hp was left I used brocoli also, still my mate died. I just gave up, 8 globals or something and not enough, not my cup of tea:d

could you not have cycloned? rooted? vortexed? stuned? your partner i assume also has tools to use, unless they are playing a spec that has no cc, roots, portal, mobility cd’s and so on and so on, which i doubt…

I have to use other tools other than just heals to keep people alive eg kiting, roots, hex lasso, static totem, fear, mind control. my teams mates also have to kite use cd’s and so on and so on… you cant just face tank things. you watch the " pros " they spend just as much time running away as they do fighting…

Ofc we could so something better. Panic kicked in and last seconds I was spamming regrowth in brocoli form, clone would be better. Its takes too much globals to get healing going on rdruid, purge spam does not help also.
Im not saying rdruids are unplayable. I Just remembered situation when I last played it.

then not that i mean it in a bad way, insulting you or any thing like that, but that is player / team error. even disc priest get sheilds purged during rapture if you are against sham / priest / hunter / mage, Shammy get their stuff purged, but you have tools to deal with it, so learn to deal with it then you will be able to cope.

Top healer US is a resto dudu in 3’s. they play the same game. i wont enter discusions on 2v2 cause you know, its 2v2, Just as many restro druids in solo shuffle in top 50 as the OP disc priest… so people like Dexd are making it work…

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I cant argue with that. I have met rdruids running around like some Flash superhero:d
Very high skill requirement for rdruid, the best what I got on it was 2300 or something. On other healers I can chill a lot more.

agreed, ive been completely out played by a restro dudu, although i am not very good mind…

But i know i can play better/ learn, but most important is, that 3’s / '2s is a team game, solo can be rather random and your on your own, but ive been in some amazing lobbys with peole who peel / interupt and so on, and been in bad lobbys where they dont do any thing other than 1 2 3. its why i dont play solo.

Least if i lose in 3’s / 2’s its cause me or my team mates played bad / got out played, can only applaud the other team… in solo you can lose due to no fault of your own and it sucks

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What’s your YouTube channel?

disagree with that one. US is definitely playing a different game

Aurelio Ris on youtube :slight_smile:

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Ww is that kind of spec that do insane dmg, better shut him down to survive than anything else.

Rdruid output is awful, if unfortunately you face tank the go you won’t survive, guess your mate should have peeled you there.

Imo the dmg is too bursty now, rdruid/Rsham can’t heal this kind of dmg that’s why they are bad and also can’t use stuff in cc like other spec. Pure handicap by default.

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Dampening also affect us much harder than others

Even when dampening hit the sky disc priest have alot of unaffected spells, and joker card in form of swap.

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