Resub looking for sensible advice

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I resubbed 4 weeks ago after a very long break of around 3 years.

The Stat squish has ruined the levelling experience which for me was one of the main attractions to the game as I do not have the time to get involved in raiding.

Doing old dungeons appears to be near impossible now due to the way the new looking for group tool works so a huge amount of content is practically useless.

Playing through this content once you have hit level 50 solo is like a steamroller so is no challenge at all which removes the fun from doing the content.

I used to be able to solo old dungeon content while levelling as long as I was around 4 levels lower than the enemies (which would result in a challenge and also xp gain while soloing dungeons) the last time I played and that appears it is no longer possible as a result of the stat squish.

Playing the old legacy versions whilst nice in some respects is a nightmare in others.

Getting access to a dungeon group requires a fair amount of time and a lot of spamming in the LFG channel and given my eyesight issues is very difficult. With no LFG tool in the old legacy versions getting a group for low level PvP in battlegrounds and dungeons is painful.

Accessing specific battlegrounds in the retail version rather than random is a mare that leaves you sat in the queue all night long.

Accessing battlegrounds in the legacy versions again is painful given the lack of the LFG tool.

Levelling seems to be far too fast in many respects as you seem to out level content too quickly. I seem to hit level 30 by the time I have done less than a tenth of the quest areas that are level 30. When looking at doing one content pack while levelling you appear to only need to do around half of the content before you have out levelled the rest.

I am left rather perplexed by some of the design changes that have been made.

When purchasing Shadowlands I was looking at signing up for 12 months or so in order to experience the new content but am now left thinking a large part of the game has been made pointless due to the changes.

The only potential saving grace for me would be to see a legacy version of WOTLK released so that the old content was all available in a user friendly way with things like the LFG tool.

This post is not meant as a rant. It is simply my observations after returning from a long break. I do not feel like the changes are screaming at me to stay resubbed for a long period of time.

Any suggestions for how I should be approaching the game that will enhance my experience will be welcomed.

Any different opinions to mine are also welcomed as long as they are constructive and not filled with judgement and hate as life is far too short.

We are all entitled to our own points of view so if you do decide to respond please keep it constructive.

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go to orgimnar. find chromie. press timewalking cataclysmm and queue for classic dungeons to lvl up to 50. then quit untill new expansion comes. take care

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How does this makes any sense when you have access to like most dungeons while lvling ?

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Did not even said why ?

LIterally 0 post this is another lame troll.

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Yea thanks for the label!

The reason that there are virtually no posts in the forums by myself is because I have resubbed after a 3 year break which you would obviously have seen if you had bothered to read my post.

Please refrain from throwing around any more labels as I made it perfectly clear that I did not want any judgemental responses.

If you have something constructive to add fine but if all you have is judgement I would sooner you said nothing at all.

We are all entitled to express our opinions without being labelled.

Why do I think the stat squish has ruined the levelling experience?

It is there clearly in my post.

You out level content far too quickly.

For example

Starting a quest line say as a Human and following the quest line by the time you hit Stranglethorn you have reached the point where you have out levelled the rest of the content in that line of quest areas. So in order to continue on you have to abandon the quests and move to another area or turn off XP gain.

Turning off XP at say level 30 to do the rest of the areas which are level 1-30 means that you cant do battlegrounds or dungeons in the LFG tool as only you will only be queued with others who have turned off XP at that level. I tried doing this and spent 3 days queued without a single group offer via the LFG tool. The same applies to battlegrounds.

So if I wanted to do a whole line of quest areas in say kalimdor in a way where I wanted to finish the whole chain of quests it would make it practically impossible to also do the dungeons as well as you are reliant on needing a whole group of other people who also have their XP gain turned off.

If I wanted to do a dungeon or Battleground while XP is turned off then my experience has shown me that it is impossible to get a group. So in that situation I would be forced to turn back on XP gain and then will out level the questing content.

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Really depends on what you wanna do in game. You wanna pet battle, collect appearances and achievements? Most of them are soloable and I think there are (at least used to be) some achievements communities.

You wanna get in end game pve? You need a guild. Start slowly and build your way up.

Personally if it wasn’t for my guild and mythic raiding I would have quit since 3rd week of SL, but that’s just my PoV.

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go to your faction hub city.
there is an npc there called “chromie”. talk to her.
she will let you choose which “path” do you want to go through.
now you can level up through any expansion from level 10 (i think) to 50.
on the way you will get to do all the old dungeons.
talk to chromie again to leave that “path”.

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Mythic legion raids can be a nice solo challenge if you’re not geared well enough

In all fairness you’re looking for some very niche gameplay.

Depends, I really appreciated taking my Enh shaman throughout BC zones especially shadowmoon & it’s elite questchains.

The spec rewards you for taking as many mobs as possible at once while being very vulnerable, leading you to often run the risk of being killed by a pack of mobs simply because you were out of CDs.

This kind of thing may still satisfy you as it’s pretty much the oldest content in the game, albeit scaled to your level.

Otherwise you could either lock your XP & try to solo content, try a challenge (only equip gear you crafted ? Wear no Armor above the belt & play as a fury warrior ? Delete the character on your first death ?) Or just slowly make your way up to max level & try to solo the current content, BFA content before 9.1.5 or mythic legion raids.

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So, if I take it correctly from your OP, you wish to level up while trying to solo dungeons at your level with the occasional BG?

I’m afraid it won’t be possible, because of the mob scaling coming in with Legion. That is, if you’re 33 for instance, the enemies too will be 33 ±1 level maybe, with elites tuned to be not soloable (or very hard to solo) at level. The world has more or less of a baseline scaling till a certain level, up until 50, but with Chromie Time everything will scale to that level.

However, once you hit that level, you’re able to clear any legacy content thanks to a damage buff, up until WoD. Legion isn’t that well soloable for now, but doable until Normal raiding difficulty. You can try HC, if you’re looking for a challenge :slightly_smiling_face:

As for BG’s, opening the tab with “H”, selecting a role then pressing the queue button should be working - will take some time of course.

This will likely become a thing as part (and likely the end) of the Classic series, until then, feel free to give TBC a try. :grin:

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Thanks for this info it is appreciated. I am hoping that the classic version of Wotlk arrives sooner rather than later.

I would also like to say thankyou for your other comments and the comments of all those who have left constructive posts in this thread.

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