But… whats the point of JV when it already does what… 10%? less dmg then FV so the stun bonus is pointless if it just brings it near the area of FV dmg + the normal 50% healingnerf… no one takes this for PvE, so again you made it pointless in all aspects of the game. Well maybe usefull for solo stuff.
Well here you go…nerfed kinda a lot…and after 10.1 were the crits will get nerfed by 25% will be even harsher…and yes I play paladin the name is Papilosgodx-Ravencrest for all those idiots who thought I play only lock and wanted rets nerfed.
Rets dmg was crazy but they could just remove some modifiers instead of the nerfs they did…anyway I haven’t tried it yet after the nerfs so I will see when get back.
I didn’t say nerf ret…I said that nerf was coming because it was super strong and asked for some changes before they gut it…but here you go nerf hammer came.
Now you look like a clown 
or maybe u are.
what did you expect? to stay beyond broken?
You mean being deadly + tankish with nearly nothing else to bring is to much? So the point of the rework was to make us have
- survivability… they nerfed that
- more mobility, they didnt even try
- Less modifiers… as you now see them nerfing modifiers what did they actually do this rework?
They set up goals and achieved none!
Edit: Well i do admit that the spec is more fun to play then it previously was, the goals they set were not achieved… more like they had a severe case of buyers remorse.
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Damn it’s crazy that people like you exist…0 brain or understanding its sadge.
Apart from some changes to mechanics, within days of going live they have effectively restored ret paladins back to C-tier in pvp and not only that, they nerfed mobility with Freedom being dispellable.
They have accomplished ZERO. Guess the sad excuses we have for devs all main warriors and rogues.
This thread is the most brain rot I’ve ever read. Its pure facts that ret are completely broken and needs to get nerfed damage wise, hell even prot. Just play BG’s or soloque and u’ll matchup with 3 palas or like 8-10 rets in a BG. Just ask any top arena player/streamer and they will tell you exactly whats broken. I have met so many bad rets that just 2shot you even with all defensive cds up. You are in complete delusion if you say otherwise or havnt played enough pvp.
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Idk, it took them months to nerf Assa rogue and when Ret is suddenly S-tier, they get nerfed back in line almost immediately.
I don’t even know why I should take JV now, the 15 % damage ON STUNNED TARGETS just makes it do the same damage as FV, which has 20 yard range. The 3 % heal from it is laughable
No PVE nerf is even necessary. Ret’s can blow up trash more consistently now, still have to completely change talents to do above average single target. Personally I am happy with that, I know my role, I will destroy the trash and do my best on bosses while helping provide utility.
Yeah lets just hope blizzard agrees. I think ret is fun right now, but in the back of my mind, I fear that blizz will eventually just go nope and trash us.
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