My Problem with ret is the 2-3 modifiers that make him Hit really hard on stunned targets and make ppl cry and ask for Nerfs.
And I am afraid they will nerf us and be at the same spot as we were before the rework…
What ppl forget is at 10.1 crits will be nerfed by 25% so automatically our burst is nerfed.
Also about the modifiers of Greater Judgment and Vanguard of Justice making our spender hit for 40% more dmg is kinda strong.
What i suggest is remove the Greater judgment and just make Judgment hit Hard like a spender and maybe remove Vaugnard of justice or make it do smth else liek buffing our holy generation abilities.
That will make our burst 40% weaker and with the crit changes will be 65% less dmg our 1 shots that hit 200K+.
Furthermore make Expurgation a strong dot like it was before they nerfed it and made it completely useless in single target.
And after that the tuning will be much easier cause there wont be modifiers that boost our dmg to the skies!
And Lastly bring back Dispel protection on Freedom already is just a line of code.
Fury warriors have been running around as unkillable melee dps wrecking machines since forever and the irony of a warlock complaining about other classes being op is off the charts.
I think the only real reason folks are complaining about rets is that the cognitive dissonance is particularly jarring. Now that they’re not free kills for them anymore, neurons are misfiring everywhere:
“Hurp! Derp! Why holy dood not ded? Can not compute! Critical error! Reboot!”.
I’m sure y’all would like the class consigned back to the trash heap, where it has lingered since about 57 xpacs ago.
“Don’t tell blizz about demo locks,fury wars,rogues”.Should I also add mages into the mix? Freedom can be stolen now,its not like ret’s are unkiteable,but they just love malding,as you said “pink name not dead,ERROR ERROR”
Indeed. There’s a handful of classes that can faceroll their way to rating and dmg charts in bg’s, but that’s seen as acceptable somehow, because the pecking order is established and those classes have been op that long it’s somehow now the status quo.
Then along comes retadins after living in the shadows for so long and they start doing EXACTLY THE SAME as what a bunch of others have been doing since we discovered fire and all of a sudden it’s the apocalypse.
Not even just in bgs,but for how long were the arena ladderboards filled by the same classes,the only time you saw something pink in there were the holy paladins,don’t tell them about legion ret where everything bad started(most people were blind due to “omagah,i got ashbringer,that’s so cool”),don’t tell them about bfa rets,especially after the essences were added and you played slots with vision of perfection to get wings procs and pray you werent kited/cced when that happened. “rets broken in s1 of shadowlands,rets always broken” mentality.
Full on pepega
Forgot to mention the other “boogeyman” of season 1 shadowlands,how come so many forgot about convoke balance druids or how it got named into “win-voke”?
Just let us have our fun for a week at least. Everyone is yelling “nerf” ret. Just stop. Ret is OK the way it is. From all the OP classes in this game, ret is your #1 problem? For real…
Why do people feel this urge to point the finger at paladins all the freakin’ time? When we were bad (and i’m not talking a patch or an expansion alone, i’m talking about YEARS), everyone was okay with ret being dead. Now we got some much needed changes for long long time and we are finally viable and suddenly everyone cries…Jesus…
People are pissed because Ret isn’t garbage and is actually threatening + difficult to kill, the same as the other A and S tier specs. But people can’t handle that. They expect - they DEMAND - Retribution be absolute trash at all times for reasons I’ve never fully been able to comprehend. Like they just feel like anyone who enjoys the spec deserves to be treated like trash.
I hope they do the right thing and nerf the damage not the survivability.
It’s great for rets to actually be able to use their utility kit to help their team. When they’re default kill target in 100% of match-ups, much of their utility kit goes to waste as their team are never targetted.
Rets are objectively OP atm but I would say that their survivability is in a good spot. They’re towards the tankier end of the spectrum now but still killable and still completely unable to kite to avoid damage.
How many time does it take for PVPers to LEARN THE GAME is being balanced around 3v3 Is this some kind of powerful stupidity in the PVP community or just ignorance that people never learn about until they are told?
The game is not balanced around 1v1 or 2v2 it has NEVER been balanced around that ever in the games life time from 2004 to this day it has never been balanced that way.
even though i agree to most of your comments here, (been playing a paladin since vanila, and obviously PINK never EVER has to dominate anything, thats the case for priest/mage/lock/rogue/drood to do 19 years now) , honorable mention to MEs’ ret pala pov <3 kekw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3i0xKqbyEw
ret can still be very easily countered bud, people are just used to stomping them and not having to care. i feel your pain on the bubble dispels though, i find you need to be more unpredictable with them and be ready to los with it if you or your dps cant stop it.
and also this is how it is, these big streamers complaining about ret are only doing so for their youtube clicks, they will not drop any rating over these ret changes trust me… most of them probably already have a strat to counter us which is easy to do.
yes damage is high, our bigs spells line up perfectly with wings, we can have 1.5 go’s per minute if we play right. i can see them nerfing the 1 min wins or reducing its stats.
the extra bonus obsorb from Aegis of Protection will get hit too. i can see us having to choose between BoP and the new magic absorb pvp talent that shares CD with BoP, the name i forget sorry. im loving our sustained damage but its true that we are smacking too hard, its very fun. its also made me start pve again! so i hope that side of things dont get hit with the nerf too
good try!
well deserved. go back to C tier! 