I keep encountering paladins that can kill you while bubbled, this shouldn’t happen in any PvP game where you can guarantee a kill.
This has nothing to do with being able to trinket from HoJ, it’s the fact they have run speed increase and doing too much damage inside bubble. Damage inside bubble needs a nerf, it’s ridiculous and needs serious revision
I agree on this tbh, there is a reason why they gave paladins 50% dmg done while in bubble.
Unless priests get mass-dispel, there is absolutely 0 counterplay to a paladin in bubble. And thats just bad game-design.
U know u just ice block right?
This post has skill issue written all over it.
The wheelchair class has 8% move speed, beware!
Why they removed the 50% damage given reduction is beyond me, honestly.
I always roll Shattering Throw as Warrior though 
Just enchant your boots with minor speed increase or get arathi rep boots and you move as fast as a paladin. As a mage you should be able to kite them fairly easily since they have no slow.
Enchant boots with what now?
But then he won’t be able to complain that pallies are OP and that they have increased run speed!
It might be an issue but its extremely small compared to the Shaman Crises. Every spec of Shaman outpreforms any Alliance class in PvP and PvE. All top 100 Tank log scores are Shamans.
We are at a huge disadvantage on Alliance right now. I’d Say combine Exorcism and Art of War into one Rune and give Ret Wind Fury on Legs and then change Bubble to do 50% less damage. That would be a fair change for Ret in PvP to compete with Enhance and help Alliance make groups x100 easier.
When we are weaker than Shaman in everyway right now, its hard to listen to or take any calls to nerf us serious as of now.
Nah, a class that can burst you down in a GCD and got the best survivability in the game is just fine. I must admit, Paladin players are the best at complaining XD
Dude u play druid that deals 999999 more dmg than palas and from 9999999 range.
You ain’t wrong.
I mean look at the strongest PvP players tier lists. Ret is middlenof the pack. No high level PvPers are saying Ret is too strong.
They are all universally saying Shaman is too strong though. You think Blizzard will listen to random grey parser, auto pilot PvP players or actual people who know PvP.
Its also very likely they wont do major PvP balancing until 60, until we have most of the Runes. Its really cope how bad players or the same few people on forums are pushing for Ret PvP nerfs.
Oh, I take it shamans are doing really well in dueling tournaments then, right? Surely it’s not just shadowpriests destroying everyone? Shaman must be overrepresented given how OP they are, right? Because peole want to win, so they play the most OP class that’s too strong at the moment, which is shaman?
Shamans are really good at destroying noobs because they have counters for all the basic stuff. But any player that can play at a level beyond the basics will beat a shaman, unless that player is a warrior ofc.
Probably.
3 strongest pvp classes shaman, spriest and boomi all S Tier. Spriest are number 1. The 3 i mentioned are miles above the other classes. They are in their own tier of strong because if they play vs anything else they win and they can only really have struggles when playing vs the same class or one in this tier. Spriests are busted in pvp, so is shaman and ret is not busted and its not weak, its middle of the pack and decent.
All ranged classes can counter shamans, SP and boomkin just do it ridiculously easy. A good rogue will kill a shaman, but due to the high amount of health it’ll have to use CDs. Same goes for ret. The only class that can’t kill a shaman regardless of skill is warrior.
Pala bubbles should had been removes ages ago. Raid mechanics non existant to this master class
the bubble + runes buffs is a mess, every 5 minutes they can guarantee a win, extremely bad design by low IQ devs
Lets balance the game around long cds and duels. Lmao What class is it that you cant beat paladin with?
And mages can kill everyone in 4 seconds with power+surge+blast+blast and its full instant +randged. I understand why paladin is so problematic for mages, because they can avoid the ‘‘im a pro’’ burst and after that the tipical arcane mages are useless.
Frost mage still can laught on every paladins(and on many other classes) but sure its a rare species because its damage is not unfair and have to play it smart.
Dying to 40 paladins on ur 70 troll mage? sad