Ret Paladin Talent Changes

Hello Ret Paladins,

I am a mainly PVP Ret player and I’d like to share a few ideas for 2 talent rows that I think are either lacking choice or have weak options. We will be looking at the level 35 and 45 talent rows in this case.

  1. Cavalier.
    That damn horse. How I wish we could just have LaotL sprint back but if they insist on this class fantasy we can maybe do somethings to tweak it.
    Now in pvp it’s only ever really paired with freedom, which is good because it’s a way to separate those who use mobility well and those who don’t but as our “sprint” it’s just awful.

Ways to fix;
A) Slow suppress while on the horse.
B) 4-6 sec sprint buff after dismounting.
C) Passive % movement buff when not on the horse.

  1. Eye for an Eye.
    Could be a good talent if nearly every class didn’t do magical damage with the exception of like 3. That and our biggest weakness is Casters. I have 2 ways that could help this.

A) Eye for an eye - OLD SCHOOL
Now a passive effect, reducing all magic damage taken by the paladin by 5% and spell criticals reflect % of their damage back to the caster (upto a % of the paladins max hp)

B) Resistance Aura.
We have auras back right? (they should have their own GCD)
How about the effect of the passive eye for an eye is now baked into an aura, providing the magical damage reduction to your party but critical effect to the paladin only).

and my last option for replace Eye for an Eye

C) Blessing of spell Warding.
Simple, prot has it, it’s sick. Now it’s our turn.

Now lets look at the 45 row.

My main issue her is Justicar’s Vengeance. It’s useless. Never used in pvp, raids or the M+ keys that i’ve done (thanks Erwin).

This is themed around survival and there is a clear returning option for this.

A) Sacred Shield
Design from Cataclysm, dropping below 30% HP causes you to be shielded, absorbing % damage and taking % healing increase. 90 - 120 ICD.

B) A new sacred shield?
Since the other options in the tree are passive we could have a SS that has a similar effect but a usable button with a 90 sec cd that can be placed on yourself or others, absorbing damage and healing increase.

These are some talent changes I propose but i think we could revamp some PVP talents as well. Let me know what you think.

And from a general paladin perspective, long arm of the law should be our thing and NOT the horse. Bin SoV and just give us back DP.

Thanks.

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