I found that ret paladin has some issues with pulling unintended mobs. Today in some m+ keys (especially instances that are tightly packed). I encountered the fact that when casting Judgment/Divine Toll/Hammer of Wrath, I just pull unintentional mobs that aren’t in combat with me/my group. For e.g. in Waycrest Manor, it pulled mobs through the walls/ceilings/floor. We depleted two keys already because of this.
For more details, I was using Abberus 4tier-set + Blessed Champion talent (I’m guessing this can be a problem for judgment/cursader strike + the tier set makes Hammer of Wrath be AoE by hitting 4 targets).
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Yup noticed this also, only really a problem on smaller pulls though. It’s also very easy for a rogue hammer to pull the inside bosses early in waycrest, done that a few times now but we were able to recover.
its not just ret, Prots divine shield sometimes just has enough range even though it looks like its far enough and pull an extra pack.
you just have to play around it by not casting these spell and have the tank pull back.
I know for a fact that if you divine storm with tempest it can sometimes just fly up or down a wall and pull the mobs that are close to the egdes, same goes for blessed hammer as prot.
Yeah, it’s a big problem in high M+ keys because additional pack pulls make a ruined key, even when mobs are not in out of sight, the Judgment and Hammer of Wrath going to pull them.
They really need to change Blessed Champion to work like Divine Toll where it only launches judgements on targets you are already in combat with and not literally anything in range. At least for dungeons and raids.
The amount of times I unintentionally pulled stuff with this is actually insane. It is really bad when you are not allowed to use one of your highest prio spells because you are afraid of wiping your group by doing so especially considering that pressing judgement into targets affected by Expurgation is literally how new tier set works.
