Ret pally nerf when?

28k melee swing
66k judgement
Guardian of Ancient kings 18k
Hammer of wrath 46k
94k exorcism
More damage from melee swing, guardian, seal of truth, censure and execution stance

I died in 5-6 globals

Nerf when?

Ret paladins the last melee you should be complaining about in a world with ww monks/arms warriors

Not true, Ret was actually buffed and dramatically changed number wise compared to the original Mop template. I do not think this was very legitimate modification in the first place.

So in a way, the devs may have overdone it…

Edit : the changes didn’t have the " not applying to pvp " tag on them as far as I could see. Otherwise, please feel free to link the patch notes.

Ret pally, unholy dk, rogue and ww monk are much better than arms warrior. I always see those classes top the damage charts.

Buffs dont apply to BG and Arenas so your point is not true

:clap:Skill Issue :clap:

Class Tuning

Reviewing the class design in the original Mists of Pandaria, we recognize that classes changed, sometimes substantially, over the course of the expansion from phase to phase. For WoW Classic expansions, we start with the class design of the final patch of the original expansion, and for Mists of Pandaria Classic, that is patch 5.4.8. Unfortunately, classes in 5.4.8 were not designed with each phase’s content (such as the first raid tier) in mind, and with no changes to classes, this would leave some in an odd state in each phase.

Many of these changes are simply reverting updates to classes that were made throughout the original Mists of Pandaria. In some cases, we plan to adjust specializations as required between patches, many of which will be reverts of these as specializations scale up.

These changes have no effect on instanced PvP content (Arenas and Battlegrounds).

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Thanks Ceri that’s fair then.

Be careful though, due to some bugs, these effects used to be activated in some pvp isntances during the first weeks, until it was fixed. Example : Deepwind gorge and battle of Gilneas because they were incorrectly recognized as world pvp zones …

But I think it’s corrected now, so I don’t know. The Original poster needs to give more context I guess.

well this tells enough that makes everything you say lose any value.

also

I died in 5-6 globals

imagine beeing blind and not going defensive peel of dmg avoid it or anything. 5-6 seconds and you are unable to react?

what is up with those ppl complainging in forums instead of getting better. Its MoP, most speccs are eitehr strong or op in their own way.

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If u truely think that then u have 0 idea of what you are talking about. That is btw not an opinion. It’s a fact

well those are better cause the cool kids playing them and not reroll on fotm warrior xD

You are finding this a problem because the classes you mentioned bring one thing in common they only have one win condition and it’s killing during their CDs healers will feel an unholy dk swap more than an arms swap because warriors strength is been able to dictate the game and stop cc throughout it all while all unholy can do is attempt to kill.

Hunter nerf when? Rogue nerf when? druid nerf when? DK nerf when? monk nerf when? Mage nerf when? Shaman nerf when?

Warrior buff when?