War within Ret feels terrible you messed up both of the hero talent trees and our core abillities dont do enough damage well played blizzard absolutley terrible ret paladin dev team.
Final verdict should hit like a truck during wings and so should other abillities it does not do a thing! If we didnt have all this cleave dmg you have put into our talent trees we would be nowhere near it on the dmg meters why dont you do that to rogue or mages that have been op since vanilla!
Not to mention our click bait self heal that does nothing!
Totally. We can be « top dps» in 3s, but Even with wings it does not feel strong, wings is no longer feared. If we dont have bubble second go, we are screwed. Ill quit of nothing happens. I cba to reroll and only Play S tier classes. Rather just quit
Exactly feeling the same way id rather quit then choose another class every time looking at dmg meters we have all this passive cleave dmg that is hiding just how bad they have gutted our core abillities the dev team is a joke .
In our forbearance window we are gone for sure i would not mind if we could hit hard in wings but we just dont we are now a mythic + cleave specc and blizz are tuning this class for that its a shame every class update nothing for rets its a joke
Yeah. Forbarance window is crazy, if a bad hpala bops me im dead. If i meet casters i have to run in only with wings even then im slowed as a turtle. I cant stand it. Was rank 20 ret eu shuffle, met 3-4 only caster lobbies and got slowed/ccd,harassed -150cr… Even first go we many times have to use both walls, even bub if healer not pressing cuz of slows… its sad. Focus prot for PVE not ret. Or just use templar for pve/hearald pvp @blizzard
Thats right i have dropped all the way down from 1700+ in shuffle coming up against double caster cleaves and because our core abillities dont do any dmg we are being exposed for how bad this specc is right now templar is the worst and herald is only good because without that passive dmg this specc just cant keep up