Retail state in short

I do. I earned the Loremaster achievement sometime in November, despite my profile in the armory not stating so.

Quests in Vanilla / Classic appear to be numerous because they take longer to complete due to enemies requiring more time to kill and travel time being important. This is different from today’s quests where it’s on average less than 2 minutes for each.

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Without the raids and M+ dungeons this game will be complete garbage.

Says you

But if doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over again for some immaginary “prize” be it a BiS or some points before it become meaningless and you have to do it again is fun to you? Then more power to you
But I for one find wandering around piciking up herbs, siting back and just relax and enjoy the scenery after a hard day way more interesting than run some recycled dungeon for the 483672564th time
I am perfectly fine with my “garbage” escapism

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Unpopular opinion but laying off the people has put the quality of the game on back burner and it is not just the casual content .it includes the end game content such as mythic plus .
Now Microsoft balance sheets might be showing profit after lay offs I don’t know but the customers money worth has definitely gone down in tww as compared to dragonflight

What the friend mentions in the article means that retail doesn’t have the glamor of doing quests, exploring through quests or different missions, searching the game. I completely understand what he means, because retail is all on the table. You do it. you finish story quests you run dungeons raids to upgrade your equipment and in the open world there are few things to no one. in the good old days there wasn’t much in the open world, you just found your way around
your exploration, npcs who gave you quests and in general you didn’t sit in the middle of the city and wait for the que. there was communication with the rest of the players for help or for a chat. now you only meet it in argent dawn if you do rp. sorry to say it but the retail which looks a lot like a moba game instead of an mmorpg.Οne last thing so that no disputes arise, I have been a wow player since 2005.i forgot to mention,have loremaster title also i have clear almost all side quests in expansions even in TWW.so i do nothing in wow right now and w8ing for patch

Guess what, Retail has even more quests, i mean you got TBC, Wotlk, Cata, MoP, WoD, Legion, BfA, SL, DF and now TWW, all with there own quests. :slight_smile:

Hours and hours of Gameplay? I mean sure, the same way Retail has that with there technically infinite replayability of Raids and PvP, but so does Retail and that even has stuff like Transmog, Mounts, Pet’s, Titles, Achivements and M+.

Your entire post to me just sounds like you never engage with anything if the game doesn’t straight up tell you to.

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True and if you want to experience old content you can switch off gaining experience .so you are very much right

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I’m there everyday, have been there every other day for the last two months or so, I wouldn’t say “a lot” of people.

Well Blizzard had to listen to the 1 % of the playerbase who have 13 children to take care of, and would therefore die of stress if they had to do dailies every day to unlock a bag cosmetic 1 month earlier.

Well Blizzard had to listen to the top 1 % who even though M+ literally infinitely scales, wanted the entire game mode to be tailor made for them.

The game sucks because Blizzard is basically creating the entire game for extremes of the WoW population. unbelieveable.

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Blizzard made over the expansions more and more solo content though. Like we got delves now in this expansion added. Blizz isn’t making this game only for the top 1%.

You guys are so extreme having kids, a life or you just want to compete with others. Wow would be so great if the game stayed classic forever.

Do you enjoy playing for 8 weeks and wait for the next season complaining on forums ?

I played Delves for 8 weeks ~reached 619 ilvl …nothing left to do with progress…

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Retail wq and grind reduced because of the crybabies (blizz dont respect muh time), yet the very same people enjoy thousands of quests in classic and replay them 500 times.

:man_shrugging:

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I am talking about dailies. Do you think you are unable to compete with others if you don´t do dailies every day.

Do you know how this game works, at all?

Players who ONLY want to play solo are also an extreme niche. I just brought up extreme casuals as the bottom % as well in the same post.
Is this, I have no reading comprehension day?

You think Classic is made for people who ONLY want to play solo? No. You literally can not progress the Onyxia story and loads of other important quests if you only want to be solo. Yet Classic is extremely popular hmmmm.

The lie that solo players, like competitive M+ players or mythic raiders make up a significant portion of the playerbase is so annoying. It is all catering to niche parts of the population, and thus we end up with current retail WoW, that by trying to appease everyone, appeases no one.

it seems so.
I never said anything about players ONLY want to play solo. I said there’s a lot of solo content added so you do not rely on a group to play the game. There’s also content when your friends aren’t around. So you can play actually all the time.

Having a lot of different types of content does make the game appease to a lot of players. The game isn’t catered to niche parts. There’s a lot of different gamecontent and everyone can choose to do what they prefer at whatever moment.

I was talking about m+

TWW has a ridiculous amount of quests it just doesn’t take half a day to do them any more because of QoL changes. Took me a week and that was me playing most of the day and reading everything.

:rofl:

Are you serious with that COMPLETELY BIASED unfair comparison. Hahahahah.
Wow.

Completely ignoring the fact that; hey you can do 10,000+ quests and leveling in retail, if that’s what you want.
AND that if you want to play Classic, and only classic, you still have to pay that sub.

Man, oh man.

It honestly hasn’t.

The total number of quests in a given expansion has consistently and substantially declined with each new expansion.

We are at an all-time low.

If you enjoy WoW for its quests, you have been getting less to enjoy.

Not sure how accurate it is, but I found it intriguing nonetheless.