Not every MMO follows these “rules”, you know…
Difficulty in doing mythic raids in wow is to get 20 good players who want do those raids and have time. But wow audience is older so msot of them don’t have time to do mythic raid 5 times in week.
So… we keep wow as it is. Homeless men and women killing everything that moves with boring, slow, boomer hotkey combat. No room for inprovement?
I’d like some skill based action combat with less buttons but more worthwhile spells. Anyway. Housing should not be forced. You should be able to ifnore it completely. It is however one of many things needed for good casual content besides: boomer dailes.
For real this tab target hotkey combat is so easy and boring. It requires almost no skill hence why wow players suck at any other game.
This is true and this is NOT an issue. When wow released, almost 20 years ago? Thats totally fine. However, what is sad is that nothing has changed, not even the numbers cause we’re back to lvl 60 with ilvl trash.
20 years nearly and nothing changed for non combat casual content…
I hate all non targets, you cannot shot enything because skill animation is so flashy that you don’t see where is hit line.
One word: innovate.
Just because others failed doesn’t mean blizz will fail. But it’s not as bad as you describe anyway. Most have more engaging combat than wow. You’re simply used to this. No new young person would prefer wow’s combat. Same how you won’t prefer everquest.
But wow is exactly that. To modern gamers wow looks like everyquest 2. Old, slow, boring, ugly and hotkey boomer combat.
Imagine making 20+ posts a day to hate on a game instead of walking away.
Sorta laughable, mostly sad.
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Imagine having a brown tongue,. Kinda disgusting and sad.
Your burns are as sad as your hate posting addiction.
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Whatever you need to tell yourself to help you sleep.
I’ve stopped engaging in a meaningful way with addicts. You are an addict, so don’t bother if you want any disccusion. It’s like convincing a crack addict that drugs are bad. They’ll drag you down and beat you with experience.
Are you telling me they don’t all have the same obsession with DPS figures prioritised over the actual RPG element? I mean if you are just talking about MMO’s (which WoW is not) then that kinda makes sense, if you’re talking about MMORPG’s (Which WoW is stated to be,) then yes, the mathematics should be taking a backseat to the actual core purpose of the game, which is to be an MMORPG.
Did you only discover the word ‘Boomer’ a few days ago and think it sounds new and cool, or are you on commission to use it as incessantly as possible?
Also do you know what it means?
Lets go over it again.
‘Baby Boomers’ are between 57-75 years old. There undoubtedly are WoW players in that age bracket, I know one or two, but they are hardly the majority in terms of age demographic.
‘Echo Boomers’ (AKA Millennials) are between 25-40 years old. This is, many think, by far the major demographic of gamers.
It’s about -when you were born-, not how old you are -now-. I wasn’t an Echo Boomer when I was 39, and I won’t be a Baby Boomer when I am 60. You’re stuck with the Generation cohort you were born into, in my case Generation X , so between 41-56.
The years thing is more about what the ages of that generation range from.
So Really, when you’re using the term ‘Boomer’ To be correct, you can only be talking about a very, very small demographic of players, or by far the largest demographic players of MMORPG’s. Everyone I know, from real life other hobbies, people I have actually met and known for years, which given that LARP is a big business in the UK is quite a lot of people, who plays MMORPG’s is either an Echo Boomer or Generation X, with now Zoomers figuring in the equation as well.
A Lot of those Echo Boomers do indeed play Final Fantasy XIV. And WoW.
So really, you can’t class WoW as ‘Boomer’ anything, without also classing FF the same way. Because it’s mostly Echo Boomers who play both.
Just thought I would clarify that for you, as you do seem so fond of the term.
Citation or any sort of factual data that stands up to critical analysis needed.
I think the correct word humans use to describe them is ‘child’. Possibly ‘Infant’ I mean that is what a New Young person is…
Boom. Gotcha. I was hoping someone would try that tack.
OK, so, If you read what I typed, I always stated it was anecdotal reports, or what I have heard second hand, or Empirical Evidence. At no point did I say that it was factually the case. What is Factually the case, is what I stated, which is that I have indeed heard these things.
-She-. I did quite clearly state that. The Goldshire quote I mean. I’ve heard the same stories from both sexes about what goes on, but that specific one was a ‘Her’.
Well, technically I’m referencing 1st party accounts of these claims, as they directly experienced them, so I’m the 2nd party, you would now be the 3rd party, so I’m referencing 1st party accounts, even though by the time those statements got to you, it would be 3rd party. It is an important distinction to make.
Again, This is where it breaks down. You’re making a statement that FFXIV is more social than WoW in general, however people I know who play both say that it is roughly the same, just that FF clamps down on overt toxicity more efficiently.
Not if you actually play it as an mmoRPG.
Err…Yes? That is how dialogue works. Otherwise any conversation would stagnate and go all circular… Oh…wait…
What about it feels tragic or melancholy to you?
Well make up your mind, is it sad or hilarious? I mean a situation can be both, I suppose, but to see them as both at the same time is not necessarily a good thing.
Have you -read- these forums lately?
Ever since Asmongold made his unnecessary and attention seeking announcement that he was going to try FF, we have been inundated with duplicate threads, and the instant someone says “Actually, it’s not all that great” They get jumped on. I mean you’re doing it now. You’re not taking my points on board and seriously weighing them up, they just don’t fit with your view. This thread was not started in good faith, and it did not take long for it to take this turn, because it was designed to. Even though certain posters have past form for bashing Real Wow, and we all knew what was really being got at, and then, quelle surprise, they opened the can of worms. We all knew what was on the label, but they opened it.
Are a method of human thought. They may be correct, they may be incorrect, but assuming something is not in itself, inherently bad. If someone in a car indicates that they are going to turn left, I assume they’re going to turn left. There is no actual compulsion upon them to do so, but it is a logical assumption to make.
You mention ‘Victim playing’.
Yeah. That sure looks like nuanced and healthy debate to me…
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M+ = Hobo murdering with other hobos
PvP = More hobo murdering
Mounts = murder beasts while homeless
Achievs = worthless to anyone older than 12, often requires more murder ofc.
Pets = murder with pets to get pets
Level alts = more hobo murder action
Rp = not my thing, but sure
Rep grind = more murdering while being a homeless “champion of azeroth”
Imagine being a champion and not having a home to go to and chill. Not even a guild hall, nothing. Just a homeless murdering slave. Everyone cheers for you in sw from their homes but you their champion have nothing.
You might be onto something here. I find forum pvp the best element of my subscription, it’s so sad. If you look closely i only sub for a month a year or so. Which is also sad. Wow used to have the funnest elements ingame instead of on the forums.
I’m having a hard time understanding what you mean or where you’re going with this. So…
Your next sentence from here stars with “I mean”, so I guess the purpose of what you say next is to clarify your thoughts to me. I’ll try to see what you mean next. But first, I’d like to answer this question.
They don’t have all an obsession with DPS.
There are MMOs where you don’t even fight actually, so… Or at least MMOs where you can choose to follow a non-fighting career path. And these can be arguably more enjoyable btw.
Ok, that’s where I get confused. “MMO” stands for massively multiplayer online (game). And MMORPG just adds the “roleplaying” element to the mix. It’s pretty clear that MMORPG is a subset of MMO. So, how can WoW be a MMORPG but not a MMO ??
If what you meant is that WoW is not “massively multiplayer” because everything you do in that game only involve at most 40 players (maybe with the exception of playing the AH), then… Yea, that’s fine for me. But then, it cannot be a MMORPG either, since it’s not massive.
If you meant that “WoW is stated to be a MMORPG but isn’t, but let’s pretend it is for the sake of blizzard”, ok. I guess that’s fine, but introducing politics or marketing into the conversation isn’t going to do anything but confuse us (at least me), imo.
What I meant is that there are online games with persistant environment whose game loop does not revolve around endlessly chasing +1 to your characters’ stats while at the same time butchering this progression every patch.
Which WoW does by introducing higher ilvl content again and again while rendering previous content completely obsolete (beside the occasional transmog).
Actually, even previous storylines gets obsolete, as it gets regularly retconed.
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No…stop making mistakes. -Some- of the WoW Community is overtly toxic, not all of it, You said so yourself, so stop backtracking now. I also said that some of them were… Which they are…
Actually by definition it is not. You can continue to use the word ‘childish’ as much as you wish, doesn’t make it accurate.
I Don’t actually need to -try- to sound smart or cool, It’s a natural talent.
And yet here is you descending to the insults?
Yeaaah…
Never confuse lots of words with a rant, and never assume because someone is using a lot of words, that they are necessarily impassioned or angry about something. Some people just like words.
Thankfully, my real life friends find me to be a wit and skilled raconteur, much sought after for my tales at parties and soiree’s, I will, if humbly allowed, take their version of my personality, rather than a petty insult from some random person on the Internet.
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Interesting.
I think I shall keep on being a grown up, and allow you to flag as many of my posts as you like, that do not contain any breaches of the Code of Conduct, given that I never Swear, or directly insult.
That was a very swift one though, less than a minute, bravo, I am sure your mother would be proud.
Not sure Blizzard will be when they have to plough through constant flag abuse however. Still, funny…
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This is like that scene in ‘The Breakfast Club’. If you haven’t seen it, do yourself a favour, it is an awesome film, with a good soundtrack, and one of the seminal John Hughes Movies,
So that one was twenty seconds, that was amazing timing, You will note, there is no insulting language or jibes in this post, but you’ve got me up to 7 green bubbles on my profile picture, even though Blizzard keep removing them and going “Yeah, that wasn’t a breach” I’m going for 10. I want to hit 10, come on, another?
Because this is certainly showing a good example of a non-toxic community…
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I also find this hilariously immature. Disagree with the guy if you want. You know…its natural to for people to both agree with somebody and disagree… but this constant flagging for no other reason than “you are not my yes-man. U flagged” is just…silly.
Curious…maybe I will also get flagged now? 
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Seriously rave or die 
raves
Call me suspicious but it would appear Hinklink has released the dogs of war to help him hide replies he doesn’t like.
Either that or he’s got a few alts.
Regardless… So childishly pathetic.
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Oh sonny, you couldn’t pvp sleep.
Quite possibly the most accurate thing you’ve said…
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I peaked too soon…they’ve stopped flagging now I’m stuck at 7 …I feel like…I don’t know, like Morrissey after him and The Smiths had stopped working together and he went “OK, I realise that we released “How Soon is Now” Which is one of the most influential tracks of all time, but it never got as far as it seemed it deserved to!” This is that moment… When I see that number 7 in a green bubble to the left side of my character portrait, I’m getting “How Soon is Now” vibes.
Why would you do that to a person?
Absolutely grievous…
Does give me a reason to listen to one of the greatest songs in modern musical history however…
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