Retribution Paladin PVP Gamestyle Design is so bad

This sustain damage playstyle for Ret is insanely boring. Im playing ret PVP for almost 18 years. The reason im playing ret is their high burst. When u turned ret to a mid range sustain damage vomiting character it feels like im playing a fury war. I understand that u do this for balance and community has low xp and can’t react. But please give us High burst low sustain ret back. Its not fun to play ret with crusade and dots… Templar paladin is a good concept for rets. I think rets need more buff on Hammer of light damage or %100 crit or something like that

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Ret gameplay is so bad.
20 yard range abilitys trade for ST damage.
Blizz should get the range of some of their abilitys and give ret some ST damage.

Ret has to lose half of its toolkit for ‘high burst’ to be a balanced implementation.

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I really like the gameplay of the ret. The problem I see is that it lacks DPS, which is low, survival, which is also low, and the lack of more competitive PvP talents, since the ones that are currently there are only 2 good ones, and 1 decent one, the rest are useless because they are nerfed or are bad.

Please Blizzard, allow us the option to throw the consecration like before, because the current mechanic with BoJ is horrible.

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it feels like, they making ret more of an support big toolkit class, with a bit of dot dmg now

Ret is just weak overall. It has decent external and support, but the damage is just not there.

Rets are decent with hunters in this patch. However every hunter would prefer to match with a feral or an unholy right now cause the comp just stomps so much more

Why go crusade if ya want instant burst? Just go regular wings with increased crit instead of haste crusade, also you can pop burst every minute, instead of every 2, feel it lines up better with the whole ret kit
You could also just go for a heavy mastery/crit build, it is easier now than ever to build for how you like to play and it will get easier next season, with increased stats

They need to revive Templar. Herald is just sustainj damage support build and Templar is just trash atm. Empyrean hammers hit random pets and stuff. Thats why the class is bad in shuffle atm but ight in BG

ure aware that normal wings is nerfed in PVP right??

Yes still find it more fun to play compared to crusade
It always lines up with the badge and still pumps good
Also getting cc on crusade is just terrible feeling, on wings not a problem, it will soon be available again anyways
The Nerf to it right now is also very questionable

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