I’d love to RP in Orgrimmar again! But sadly, I’m absolutely tired of all the people literally RPing scourge, demons and other stuff that literally shouldn’t belong in Orgrimmar. (Also something, something Jade Witches)
I do hope that one day it’ll become its own hub again, though.
You must understand that Lady Deathdeath Bloodboiler the San’layn Death Knight has legal documents on her person that say, not only can she be in the city, she has free reign to aggressively murder the locals and raise their bodies into undeath.
To state otherwise is simply BadRP
Oh don’t get me started on the dreaded papers RP…
I remember ages ago when I was RPing in Org, there was someone RPing a Night Elf. I naturally attacked them (as you would, considering they’re in a horde city), and the people they were RPing with (I assume their friends) immediately started whispering me and talking in brackets how I shouldn’t just randomly attack people and whatever, how I’d get reported and ignored blah blah blah.
While limited a little in size of the actual settlement, it makes up for having a lot of good locales closeby for rp. The cavern, ratchet, several watchposts and more.
Its a good start to something though, that can support smaller sizes but also a lot of activity as you can spread out if need be and expand.
As mentioned, itll also allow for easy cross-faction rp in ratchet which could lure in some roleplayers that prefer to stick with their alliance chars. That undoubtedly pays off as 9.2.5 will bring cross-faction groups, so if we can establish something then you can cash in on that feature soon as well.
I’ll happily give it a go myself and if im on horde I’ll make the first step so that others can see it’s not just all talk.
All it takes is a handful of people and spreading the good word so it reaches roleplayers that do not frequent the forums and pitching the idea to a couple smaller communities and guilds that may want to be part of it.
Org as I recall did have a few decent active guilds that openly roleplayed in it, so if they are still around, i’d love to give them a nudge too.
Do you?
Like I mentioned, shamanism is probably the biggest spiritualist demographic and it fits alongside druidism enough that you don’t HAVE to fight em.
The Horde is diverse so Light & Shadow is allowed as well, so you can butt-heads if you WANT. But really we’re all Horde so we shouldn’t actually be butting heads all that much.
I’d say the Alliance has more schism in terms of different faiths. Druids & Alliance light tends to be more separated than The Horde race’s use.
Tauren Sunwalkers are truly the greatest spiritual bridge, huh? Yet that won’t stop my own from looking down on Mu’sha devotees.
It depends on the individual character’s tolerances and intolerances and the same goes for their “goals.”
To turn your back on an eye of our mother, is to turn your back on balance and our charge of caring for the face of our beloved earth.
Shame. SHAME!
Honestly, yes to all including what you’re arguing against/disagreeing with.
There’s enough material for a whole separate thread on this topic alone and I’d rather not derail further.
Sun-Brothers! Sun-Sisters! His radiance is upon us!
AN’SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! 
Regarding Crossroads as an active RP hub, back in the days of the Darkspear Rebellion, it was the de facto Horde RP hub for those many months since Orgrimmar was dominated by Kor’kron Loyalists after the outbreak of the rebellion in the lore. Although there were certain guilds that rebelled patches in advance, the 5.3 patch that officially declared the rebellion turned Crossroads into a very active hub.
Now granted with the benefit of hindsight you had guilds like Loa Atal Ai propagating the Amani/Drakkari/Gurubashi/Hostile troll RP and me being 15 at the time didn’t realise the problem with this, it managed to be a very active hub for closer to a year even if we only had the inn and a couple of huts and the tower. We need not invite the San’layn/Drakkari/Whatever RPers this time around.
With quality control I think it could turn into a sustainable hub like it was 10 years ago, with Barrens offering opportunities for many types of RP outside of Crossroads – I always viewed Barrens as a whole as a hub at the time and Crossroads was its heart that allowed for gatherings and intermingling between guilds, rather than all of the RP focusing purely around Crossroads township. Its very nature always felt more like a pitstop to the wider Barrens at large.
The thing that kept the hub alive was the narrative focus of the story at the time that took people to the Barrens, but I’m confident people are capable of breathing life back to it if they’re willing to go through the effort and weaving stories that are focused in the Barrens.
One thing we can do is go to Tirisfal Glades. Minor spoilers, but there’s Forsaken activity there in 9.2.5, especially the ruins of Brill. Perhaps there can be reconstruction rp there, helping the returning Forsaken rebuild their lives.
I was thinking of running a mini-campaign in Tirisfal all about helping the (Horde friendly) forsaken reclaim the area from various (absolute lunatics out to nab it for themselves), but I’m not sure if it’d come to anything 
But it’s still a nice idea using Tirisfal as a hub after the new patch drops; certainly gives people a reason to be there-!
I’d thought about the same thing. Even started brainstorming: ways to get non-forsaken involved, ways to implement reconstruction RP, etc. I don’t know why I stopped actually…
Shamans helping settle particularly violent spirits.
Druids trying to remove plants that were mutated.
Blood elves… paying Tranquillien debt.
Also, finally collecting the bodies of fallen soldiers from the area if possible.
Good times, that was. Sigh.
I feel like I see this repeated in every one of these “what’s the deal with hubs/x community/state or rp” threads, but the “be the change you want to see/get the rp going yourself” is the greatest non-advice anyone can get on this forum.
I have seen plenty of times when single person provided RP for hundreds or people on campaigns, but those are one time things. As a member of a guild that has daily events, I know that one person can provide RP regularly to a guild, but both these examples have one thing incommon - the person already has a receptive base to do stuff with. One person does not a hub make. Was there really a bartender in Ratchet if nobody saw them?
The idea of making big public events to bring people in is unsustainable, it would be full time job and one that would get old really quickly, if someone has to constantly pump out content for the masses with everybody just tagging along but not providing any content in return and knowing the moment you take a break, people won’t show up and all your work has been for nothing, what sane person would put up with that?
My personal opinion is that the Horde just simply attracts gamers who prefer to be out there in the world adventuring, camping under the stars etc rather than staying in hubs. While I am sure everybody would like a hub to come to resupply or rest ic, hang out and meet new people and boast about their victories when there is no guild event happening for time to time, majority of the horde playerbase would simply not stay in that hub for long before leaving for an adventure again.
Barrens saw a lot of activity for a while recently around and during a campaign and it is Horde-core zone, it was great seeing people moving about, running into each other, using all the cool spots in the zone, it is in my opinion much better than Orgrimmar, but since someone mentioned the lack of buildings, you may want to look into newer zones with Horde bases, Boralus and Dalaran are doing fine, maybe looking into Zuldazar or something in Northrend could work, or there is always Silvermoon for the more city dwelling folk, which again is just simply city better than Orgrimmar. I don’t think you can do much better than Barrens hubwise in Kalimdor (but I do think a true Horde hub would be in Kalimdor, like I said, Boralus and Dalaran have managed to make RP going in newer zones, so who knows).
Two bonus points for the conclusion before I go back to lurking:
“Quality control” and lorebreakers or even straight up disgusting characters people keep bringing up as a reason for Orgrimmar getting abandoned are the same issue. You simply can’t do any sort of “quality control” outside of a guild or community, but not in a hub, zone or the game in general. That’s what GMs and CMs would be for if they weren’t utterly incompetent, lazy, useless, overpaid bottom tier trash that they are over at Blizzard. I am no lore expert and I would prefer to get a friendly whisper rather than making fool out of myself with something like being openly a demon, scourge or enemy faction char in a hostile faction city, but I think everybody knows that people who rp those don’t really care for lore and would take somebody telling them about it as toxic.
While I wish that forsaken gamers would get some cool lore, zones, transmog etc along with everybody else, I don’t think RPing based on datamining is very smart, especially when it is just some possible hints/assets or whatever, not even a full questline (I am not really up to date on datamining, so I could be talking nonsense here), but we all know nothing is definitive until it’s in live game and even then we know Blizzard writers motto - “Time is a tangled web, don’t dwell on the loose ends.”
Truth being told, the hub of Orgrimmar was already dying regardless of the latest caravan situation.
The Horde population was/is already heavily divided and as the population declines it has abandoned random role-play to focus more on guilds, where drama is less stressful.
It won’t change, simply put.
It wasn’t doing well, but they certainly compounded a bad situation.
It’s hard to ignore a situation when it grows in the corners of the city RPers actually hang out in.
True that… that said though, anyone willing or can talk to groups willing to give this whole crossroads project a try then? May be a nice change of scenery and who knows? May work out longterm, and if not at least it’ll get a couple people together for some rp here and there.
Orgrimmar has the unfortunate fact of being simply an unpleasant place that feels tonally clashing with the Horde races I play. It’s hard to find good RP dealing with magic, elven politics and the Forsaken when most of the playerbase is either variations of two Orcish characters or is a vulpera that feels nothing like a vulpera. Dalaran scratches more itches for me.