Just saw the farseer talent tree. As an elemental shaman I am worried. I am worried because our only hope for a good talent tree is now stormbringer - which sounds cool by name, but so did farseer. The shaman devs had the opportunity to promote a balanced rotation through master of the elements, rewarding elemental shamans for weaving spells properly in the right order, but instead they ended up promoting the braindead playstyle of spamming more lava burst because of the synergy it has with primordial wave. It is crazy to me how the devs nerfed storm elemental back in the day to remove “an uncomfortable playstyle of spamming a single button”, but ended up FORCING us into the exact same playstyle for a whole patch. And now, sadly, it looks like we’ll have an entire expansion where that is our primary function as elemental. Another issue is that DRE still exists, meaning we will have even more RNG than we already do. Please, shaman devs… I beg of you: this is your chance to bring back a balanced rotation where all spells are important and relevant in your rotation. Make farseer about pressing few, but important lava bursts that buff your other spells (like an empowered master of the elements). Please… do not force shamans into another situation where you either spam lightning bolt or lava burst, but rather a build where you weave different spells to deal maximum damage, exactly like you did in 9.0 (one of the few good things about that expansion). This tree in general is bad simply because it builds further upon bad design - shaman defensives(awful off-healing), DRE and pwave. This is why elemental needs a complete rework before these hero talents should be made. There are very few good talents in the elemental tree that they can realistically build upon to make a good playstyle. But knowing blizzard, a much needed rework like this will not happen for another 2 expansions.
this tree is just mastery x 2 for ele, it just copies our spell with a few passive here and there.
How uninspired…
Atleast its not tied to enha…
Primodial wave need to be removed.
As a RShaman it sucks. It forces you to take Unleash Life instead of Ondulation.
There are some good talents there, but 90% of it is just bad.
My wish list is:
- Rework hero talents into this: “Guys we need to rework all 3 specs of shaman and get rid of Primordial Wave. Until we do so, we wont be spending any time on hero talents. So wait for the PTR please”.
Thats what I wanna hear…
Agree.
Meanwhile they proclaim that hero talents is all about choices:
"### Maintaining Freedom to Choose
We want players to be free to choose the Hero Talent tree that has the gameplay, visuals, or flavor that they prefer. Our goal is for both options to feel similarly effective in raid dungeons, Mythic+, and PvP. We’re working to avoid abilities or bonuses in Hero Talents that could make a certain tree feel “required” for activities where we can."
Get an Eye on an Even Dozen New Hero Talent Trees (blizzard.com)
This one forces you to take xyz talents. Similar to some tier setbonuses. Either you pick it or you dont have setbonus on this season.
Same for this hero talent. Either pick primo or unleash, or forget this tree and look to the other one.
Many others specs like dk for example, have their hero talents interract with their basic skills, not forced to take specific talents.
I think people are mostly mad at that champion tree because they expected it to solve all ele issues that should actually be solved by a reowrk of their tree…
this tree is absolut awful if u look at Dk or Warrior — its totally boring,
90% are just bad, and again only 1 def talent - which is awfull,
no raid or grp buff
Rework this Blizz, even wowhead already posted this,
the only thing Farseer is seeing if this doenst change, is the Bench in all forms of Contetn
At least its not trickster, oracle or pack leader.
The flavor is pretty good but needs some work.
For those that dislike Pwave and Lava Burst, keep in mind that ele has 2 “talent builds” and one of them is focused on those talents (and some people enjoy).
The other hero spec is called stormbringer, so you KNOW its not gonna be around LvB OR Pwave. You are gonna have the choice over what to play, and those specs have tuning knobs to actually be balanced around each other on some level.
And for those asking for utility and defensive on those trees, WE DO NOT WANT IT THERE. If they put utility there then you are forced to one of those specs. Utility and defensive buffs need to be on the class tree (and even more WF totem there).
Either way. None of this addresses RShaman issues.
And none of the tree is fun to play. Too many passives and RNG.
RNG and passives are the WORST possible thing you can give a healer.
Additionally. I expected to get hero talents in the direction of: Some of the damage turns to healing, some of the healing to damage… That stuff.
And on the RShaman tree as part of the rework link mana regen to damage. Thats what made RShaman fun in the past.
And that is what RShaman used to be: Weaving damage in between healing. We were the first iteration of “combat” healer in the game. Now its Disc and MW doing it. But we were the first.
Thats our flavour. Thats our “thing”. We should get it back.
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